portugal? that little country who ever loose when its happened?
south amerika in the front
in europe it will be spain, france, germany, netherlands, italy, england, turkey and so on. in that row.
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What if: Clubs could only transfer players from their home country?
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portugal? that little country who ever loose when its happened?
south amerika in the front
in europe it will be spain, france, germany, netherlands, italy, england, turkey and so on. in that row.
Liverpool won most of their titles, european cups with exclusively British Players, playing teams in Italy for example who had Brazilian stars in their teams at the time.
Yes South Americans are technically more gifted, its about their culture and youth training, but the English NT record against South American oppposition is actually....rather good.
marukomu
Ecchi otoko
If I remember, most of them were Scottish or Irish so they wouldn't count.
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just on an offtopic note these deals of real, when they even have over 500 Million in debts, shouldn't go through imo.
This is like joking with us, specially to some of us here in Portugal, clubs are closing because they don't have money and have nowhere to get that money back and pay their worst debts, normal people struggle every month in order to pay for they own houses, their cars and are constantly afraid that their boss will close the company, our prime-minister keeps making excuses to build a 5 billion euro aero port and TGV from Lisbon to Madrid that will cost us another Billion of 2 and what do wee see in our newspaper? Ronaldo being sold for 94 million? are you like serious? first of all he isn't (no1 ever is) correspondent to this huge amount of money secondly i don't see why Platini/Blatter/every1 f***ing involved in the world of soccer stopping this, ever since that stupid rule decades ago came saying that players can not be restricted to a certain amount of money in every single club they play in which also lead to players moving freely from their home country to another.
Well this is just talking since there are millions of other more powerful people making their demand that football should stay as it is, but what the hell can we do? because in the end they just receive this crap load amounts of money because we see them play we shouldn't feel like "wtf he is just playing football and will receive 10 millions a year? in my life time i won't receive such money" this as to stop something must be done.
Don't know any more solutions, but the own i present is a some kind of movement, a global movement, against this stupidity in football.
I want to see a final of a CL or a Europa with teams like Deportivo, Everton or even sunderland parma something different from the usual QF Manchester Chelsea Liverpool ARsenal bla bla bla.
Want to hear other peoples oppinions about this issue that is really bothering me atm, would like to know if it is doing the same for others around here.
This is like joking with us, specially to some of us here in Portugal, clubs are closing because they don't have money and have nowhere to get that money back and pay their worst debts, normal people struggle every month in order to pay for they own houses, their cars and are constantly afraid that their boss will close the company, our prime-minister keeps making excuses to build a 5 billion euro aero port and TGV from Lisbon to Madrid that will cost us another Billion of 2 and what do wee see in our newspaper? Ronaldo being sold for 94 million? are you like serious? first of all he isn't (no1 ever is) correspondent to this huge amount of money secondly i don't see why Platini/Blatter/every1 f***ing involved in the world of soccer stopping this, ever since that stupid rule decades ago came saying that players can not be restricted to a certain amount of money in every single club they play in which also lead to players moving freely from their home country to another.
Well this is just talking since there are millions of other more powerful people making their demand that football should stay as it is, but what the hell can we do? because in the end they just receive this crap load amounts of money because we see them play we shouldn't feel like "wtf he is just playing football and will receive 10 millions a year? in my life time i won't receive such money" this as to stop something must be done.
Don't know any more solutions, but the own i present is a some kind of movement, a global movement, against this stupidity in football.
I want to see a final of a CL or a Europa with teams like Deportivo, Everton or even sunderland parma something different from the usual QF Manchester Chelsea Liverpool ARsenal bla bla bla.
Want to hear other peoples oppinions about this issue that is really bothering me atm, would like to know if it is doing the same for others around here.
MokBull
Banned
I don't like this idea. Why? Why would you do this? It wouldn't give players like Eto'o or others a chance to play for the best teams, as a Cameroonian league with all the Cameroonians would still not ever be as good as the Brazilian or Italian leagues, where he owuld hypothetically belong in a situation like that. Plus, you've got corruption and mismanagement in environments such as Brazil, where if all of the Brazilian players played they would be ousted out of their World Class status by club bigwigs. And an introduction of this rule, wouldn't it basically nullify national team competitions?
Frankly, I like the transfer season. It gives me something to hope for, to look ahead for. I like discovering new and previously hidden gems, sort of like in FIFA or FM, but real. This is completely unfair to the best players in not-so good countries, like I mentioned with Eto'o, but also, say, with Gudjohnsen, or someone like Bruce Grobelaar.
Thirdly, this stifles new ideas and implementation of tactics in any country. If only English players were in the Premier League, that would really stagnate any stylistic development that would otherwise qbe readily attainable in a free-transfer world. Tactics would be nearly the same (although admittedly far from it, but more so than nowadays), and football wouldn't develop.
This, of course, brings up the question of if international managers would be able to manage teams from other countries, or for that matter, if chairmen should. If so, then it would be completely unfair to the players playing under those managers, and actually to any player at all. Plus, in countries such as Zimbabwe where Grobelaar hails from, there wouldn't be enough managers with any ability or clout to manage the teams. Some clubs would get the "cream of the crop", but the rest would be subject to playing under a guy who knows his tactics from playing Footie Manager. That wouldn't work.
Next, if the economy of a country collapses and many of the countries clubs would need to be liquidated or downsized, what would happen then? Do the players of said clubs simply retire, as they have nowhere else to go?
Lastly, it needs to be mentioned that not all clubs can manage to play a superstar player what he wants, or deserves. A team in Cote d'Ivoire, let's say, that included Droba, the two Toure's, and a host of other brilliant footballers, would simply not be able to support the players' fiscal desires. Spreading out the players over a number of clubs wouldn't work either, as 1) this would restrict players' movement even further than it already has been, and 2) this would deepen the factor of "ability gap", where an absolutely brilliant player is forced to play for a hideously substandard team.
I simply don't like this idea. Feel free to destroy anything I just said, and then watch your reply get destroyed by ME.
Frankly, I like the transfer season. It gives me something to hope for, to look ahead for. I like discovering new and previously hidden gems, sort of like in FIFA or FM, but real. This is completely unfair to the best players in not-so good countries, like I mentioned with Eto'o, but also, say, with Gudjohnsen, or someone like Bruce Grobelaar.
Thirdly, this stifles new ideas and implementation of tactics in any country. If only English players were in the Premier League, that would really stagnate any stylistic development that would otherwise qbe readily attainable in a free-transfer world. Tactics would be nearly the same (although admittedly far from it, but more so than nowadays), and football wouldn't develop.
This, of course, brings up the question of if international managers would be able to manage teams from other countries, or for that matter, if chairmen should. If so, then it would be completely unfair to the players playing under those managers, and actually to any player at all. Plus, in countries such as Zimbabwe where Grobelaar hails from, there wouldn't be enough managers with any ability or clout to manage the teams. Some clubs would get the "cream of the crop", but the rest would be subject to playing under a guy who knows his tactics from playing Footie Manager. That wouldn't work.
Next, if the economy of a country collapses and many of the countries clubs would need to be liquidated or downsized, what would happen then? Do the players of said clubs simply retire, as they have nowhere else to go?
Lastly, it needs to be mentioned that not all clubs can manage to play a superstar player what he wants, or deserves. A team in Cote d'Ivoire, let's say, that included Droba, the two Toure's, and a host of other brilliant footballers, would simply not be able to support the players' fiscal desires. Spreading out the players over a number of clubs wouldn't work either, as 1) this would restrict players' movement even further than it already has been, and 2) this would deepen the factor of "ability gap", where an absolutely brilliant player is forced to play for a hideously substandard team.
I simply don't like this idea. Feel free to destroy anything I just said, and then watch your reply get destroyed by ME.
Nick Cave
Wrexham fan for my sins...
Unworkable, and goes against free trade in Europe as well as a host of other things. If Bloater tried it FIFA would have more writs than members...
MokBull
Banned
Free trade, that§s what I was getting at.
biggertam1980
kPonEamSi
I agree there should be some sort of limit on players can be bought somthing like say 7 of your starting 11 must be from the clubs home country that still leaves 4 players from -non home based - to be in the team ...
they whole ban on non home based players is unworkable. i would say it would help a lot of clubs and national teams as this would be a fairer reflection on teams ...
now im going to point it out as an example the team i support Celtic won European Cup in 1967 with all home grown players so it shows you it can be done.
i dont get the ppl that say '' oh you cant do it '' i would ask you why what are u scared of ?
its time football got back to its roots or as near to its roots as possible in todays climate...
all that being said too many greedy fat cats out there with no will to change anything so i doubt anything will happen.
we can only hope.
they whole ban on non home based players is unworkable. i would say it would help a lot of clubs and national teams as this would be a fairer reflection on teams ...
now im going to point it out as an example the team i support Celtic won European Cup in 1967 with all home grown players so it shows you it can be done.
i dont get the ppl that say '' oh you cant do it '' i would ask you why what are u scared of ?
its time football got back to its roots or as near to its roots as possible in todays climate...
all that being said too many greedy fat cats out there with no will to change anything so i doubt anything will happen.
we can only hope.
#71
Champions League
- 18 May 2006
- SL Benfica
portugal? that little country who ever loose when its happened?
That little country that has produced Cristiano Ronaldo, Figo, Rui Costa, Paulo Sousa, Sergio Conceição, João Pinto, Pauleta (just to name a few that play or played in the last years) and was always one of the best teams on youth tournments (we only lack one trophy, under 19, I think)
Portuguese teams were always very competitive on european competitions, until they decided for no foreigners restrictions and Bosman rule. I can guarantee you Portugal would be on top 5 leagues in the world if our talent would be kept here.
MokBull
Banned
See, but even all this "if the talent stayed" talk would reuslt in basically a new national team dispersed over 20 or so clubs. What I like about league football is the ability to intermix players from different places into strange or esoteric clubs, or even not and, say, Chelsea, and watch them evolve. I really don't want a second national team for each country, which is basically what would happen -- you would have the "vrai" national team, and then a second one making up 20 separate entities. This idea goes against having national teams in the first place.