"Tribute to Ronaldo" knee injury, career over...?

He just got operated. 9 months recovery process begins now.

...that means he'll get even fatter ;)

It is sad though - do players get full wages even when they are injured in Serie A?
 
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How Ironic that the Friday MYfreesport in London supplement has an Interview with Ronaldo in it............

How ironic is it when asked the questions of "when will you retire?"

"Will you score 16 more goals to be Brazil's all time top scorer...?"
 
One silver lining about Ronaldo is his ability to bounce back when the chips are down.His doctor states that the injury can be healed and its all up to the player himself to come back to the game like before.
 
...that means he'll get even fatter ;)

It is sad though - do players get full wages even when they are injured in Serie A?

His contract runs out in June, but I think we will offer him a new one out of good will. Sao Paulo have also offered to chip in. He is getting a lot of support from fans and players, even Inter president Moratti. People want to see him retire playing football rather than injured.
 
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You must be very, very, very young.

He wasn't even the best Brazilian striker...far from...

Better strikers:

Gerd Muller
Eusebio
Just Fontaine
Van Basten
Rensenbrink
Lineker
Papin
Romario
Tostao
Riva
Rossi
Lubanski
Lato
Szarmach
Garrincha
Van Nistelrooy
Rush
Dalglish
Stoichov
Batistuta
Kempes
Omar Sivori
Butraguenio
Raoul
Henry
Eto'o

Absolutely, 100%, the most preposterous post I have ever had the misfortune to read.

I'm changing my avatar for you.
 
Absolutely, 100%, the most preposterous post I have ever had the misfortune to read.
I'm changing my avatar for you.

I think i have the right to have my opinion about Ronaldo even if it is a stupid one.
But you and i know that sooner or later you would take your revenge because i PM'd you to say that you are a big disgrace as a mod...which above mentioned post proves again...
Once again: a mod should have the grace and common sense to transcend this level.
But like i said in my PM's to you, this (also) is only my opinion and it doesn't really matter.

To the others like Don, i'm 46 years old and saw plenty offootage about Garrincha and have read books about the impact of Sivori. I can assure you that Ronaldo is not a great player compared to some of the players i mentioned. Look how Real Madrid has improved since he and (the also overrated) Roberto Carlos have gone (oh and read the latest FourFourTwo, about Ronaldo's impact on Real Madrid).

One thing is sure, Ronaldo is very talented (maybe more talented than most of the strikers i mentioned), but i never behaved like a professional...
 
i PM'd you to say that you are a big disgrace as a mod...which above mentioned post proves again...
Once again: a mod should have the grace and common sense to transcend this level.

Dude, mods have the perfect right like any other poster to comment freely on points and topics.
If he though the post was rubbish, he thought it was rubbish.

Stop taking it personally; this is a forum, not the bloody U.N


I can assure you that Ronaldo is not a great player compared to some of the players i mentioned.


Rather arrogant view don't you think?

You can 'assure him'? As if to say he is wrong for disagreeing with you?
 
I doubt he will retire, but certainly wont play football at a high level again. Might do what Romario did and go play in Brazil.

poor afirmation...
problaby shows how much of brazilian football u know.


anyway, im sure ronaldo will be back yet again...

and please gerd, dont do a major blasfemy by comparing ronaldo to kempes, batistuta, raul, lineker, papin,Van Nistelrooy, etoo, henry....they dont come evan close to ronaldo ability or achivments...
 
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gerd you might watch and read the player histories you've posted but Certainly didn't watch Ronaldo.
 
I was shocked when I heard of this. The doctors also said that, though it depends on him now, recovering could take a little bit longer than the other serious injury he had in Internazionale. At the time he was 23 years old, now he's 31.

@ Gerd: How can you possibly say he never behaved professionally? When people said he was finished, having a comeback like that to win the World Cup with 8 goals in 2002 is example enough for many players. After that he earned my respect forever.
Lets remember that many people said in this thread that he was the best AT HIS PRIME. My opinion too.
And that list of yours, come on, give us a break!
 
imo Ronaldo was a step higher than Raul, Van Nistelrooy and many of the strikers around now. He had technique, pace, determination and composure. He was very clean and well behaved, unlike Van Nistelrooy or Eto'o who behave like kids sometimes.
 
Yep, that is still true. I can't stand him at Milan, but I cant help but sympathize or praise his career! Don't even get me started on Gilardino :lmao:
 
@ Gerd: How can you possibly say he never behaved professionally? When people said he was finished, having a comeback like that to win the World Cup with 8 goals in 2002 is example enough for many players. After that he earned my respect forever.
Lets remember that many people said in this thread that he was the best AT HIS PRIME. My opinion too.
And that list of yours, come on, give us a break!

I have to agree with Gerd at this one, Ronaldo is unprofessional.

You believe that he is proved as a example to players just for his comeback in 2002? The only reason he was there was by his name and "friendship" (not to say a__kisser) of CBF and Globo (who rules the media in here).

CBF is a joke, and it just do harm to our football, our national team is pure business, and I do know the world is a business, but CBF are just too dirty even for our greedy world.

Ronaldo was great indeed, but professional [-(...

He is one of the smarter players ever IMO, not in a good way, he knew exactly when he needed to be in form, see World Cups, so he made pressure to be in our squads. I even think he will pressure some Brazilian club to sign him if he lost market in Europe.
 
I agree, he hasn't been a good professional. He hasn't been on top of his fitness for years, and this is so important in football these days. Also, he was seen to be leading Robinho astray at Real and hindering his performances (that was just one thing recently).

That said, he's easily the best striker of my generation. When he was at his best, nothing could touch him. He's one of my favourite ever players and I really hope he can recover to play at the top for a bit longer.
 
Yeah, it wasn't just Ronaldo, there were other factors, but he definitely was a bad influence, the proof is there for all to see.
 
I have to agree with Gerd at this one, Ronaldo is unprofessional.

You believe that he is proved as a example to players just for his comeback in 2002? The only reason he was there was by his name and "friendship" (not to say a__kisser) of CBF and Globo (who rules the media in here).

CBF is a joke, and it just do harm to our football, our national team is pure business, and I do know the world is a business, but CBF are just too dirty even for our greedy world.

Ronaldo was great indeed, but professional [-(...

He is one of the smarter players ever IMO, not in a good way, he knew exactly when he needed to be in form, see World Cups, so he made pressure to be in our squads. I even think he will pressure some Brazilian club to sign him if he lost market in Europe.

I agree with 99% of what u said, but still, that list he posted comparing ronaldo is a really bad joke.
u from all others in this forum, beeing a cruzeiro fan, and (i suppose, like me) seeing his career very closely since the begining, must admit that some of those players in that list(the majority) dont come evan close to ronaldo, in terms of ability and specially achivments.
And in my opinion those 2 qualities plus the personality and behaivor off the pitch(which i must agree with u that he hasnt been the professional player we excepected him to be) are the qualities that for ME definy the players that will forever be in the "football hall of fame".

ronaldo certanly has lots of the 2 first qualities i mentioned, and with his UNICEF and other several charity acts he made throughout his career i can easily forget about his "woman" issue and put him in MY hall of fame.
(heck, u cant blame him for wanting to screw all those beaultifull women when he can ;))


one last thing, i do agree with u that globo has lots of power in CBF, but if they had "that much power" romario would never be cut out in the 1998 world cup. i do think that ronaldo's spot in the 2002 wc was a personal bet of felipao, nothing to do with globo.



btw m8, write it down... this is our year! yokohama waits for us! ZEROOOOOOOOOOOO
 
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But you and i know that sooner or later you would take your revenge because i PM'd you to say that you are a big disgrace as a mod...which above mentioned post proves again...
Once again: a mod should have the grace and common sense to transcend this level.
Yes, "revenge". My reaction to your post on Ronaldo is my "revenge" for you private messaging me; I've spent the last few months just waiting to pounce on an opinion of yours that I disagree with.

Once again: a mod should have the grace and common sense to transcend this level.
Why should I not let you know that I believe your post to be absurd? I'm not going to bite my lip, so to speak, merely because of my position as a moderator. My opinion stands, regardless.

To recap: I'm a "big disgrace" because I banned a user who continually told others that their mum's sucked cock. All because he didn't agree with them!?

Back on topic, the players you have quoted are excellent, but to say they're all better than Ronaldo suggests to me that your opinion of him off the pitch affects your opinion of his ability on it.
 
Back on topic, the players you have quoted are excellent, but to say they're all better than Ronaldo suggests to me that your opinion of him off the pitch affects your opinion of his ability on it.

If you would have written something like that in reaction to my post, i would have respcted you....

And the reason why i gave you a couple of PM's is not what you says in the above post...you know that damn well...another proff that you are not a good mod.

To the other people who disagree and who i respect:

Now about Ronaldo: he was good (and once fantastic) in World Cups...he was fantastic with PSV (but every Dutch football fan who really watched football at the time will tell you that Luc Nillis was better than Ronaldo at the time, i could have put Nillis in that list too, but yes i think the list was already over the top).
Ronaldo was fantastic with Barcelona (i think everybody will agree that he was never better), but how many CL's did he win ????

And did he really made a difference at Inter, Real Madrid or AC Milan more than in one or two matches...

People like Dalglish and Rush dominated club football with theirclubs for years...Ronaldo did not.

And now something very subjective, i'm pretty sure that Brazil would have won those World Cups without Ronaldo too..

And then there is the strange incident before the WC final 98 and the way his weight is going constantly up and down in very short periods. All sign that Ronaldo is not a clean player...

About his unprofessional behaviour,well quite a lot of people have proven me right.

You guys are a lot younger than me (lucky bastards), the only advantage i have over you is that i have seen playing all those players (except Sivori) and i can assure you that a player Like Preben Elkjaer Larsen (whom i neve rmentioned in my list) was as impressive as Ronaldo in his best days...

I would rather put Ronaldo in the same league as George Best, immensely talented and when he was in good form perhaps thebest player in the world, but over long periods underachieving....
 
For me, i prefer him ends his career because of the injuries, rather than off pitch problems, thus make him a legend like van basten.People will always wonder what Van Basten can achieve if he is not injured. The same will goes for ronaldo.

Not like Maradona, although he is a legend, people knew cocaine and drugs end his career. And not like some other player who wait til very old to retire, like Romario, people dont even bother to watching him anymore.
 
And not like some other player who wait til very old to retire, like Romario, people dont even bother to watching him anymore.

But the thing is, why should Romario retire just because he is old and 'wants to go out in glory'?
Surely he should be admired for reaching that age and still having the desire and passion to play on and on, season after season?

It certainly shows some of these younger players what football should mean to them, when they are chasing about in their mid-twenties, more interested in bling and women than the game they are fortunate enough to be involved in.
 
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