Re: The biggest club in the world?
master8 said:
as for me Fenerbahçe but to be honest
1-Real Madrid
2-Barcelona
3-Juventus
4-Milan
5-Liverpool
6-Man Utd
I can't imagine how Juventus, Milan and Liverpool can be behind Barcelona in that list. I mean, the most important fact to consider, given we are talking about playing football, should be trophies won. Both Milan and Juve, by far, have many more and more important titles than Barcelona. Barcelona is the second team in Spain, but is far from being the second most important club in the world.
In my opinion, we could try to build a "kind of objective" criteria list to consider what factors are more important. I'd say, for example, that at least
50% of the score in this measurement should correspond to
titles won, as that is after all what ends up telling which is the best team. Of the 50% remaining, I'd say
15% would be international fame (up to this day),
15% economic power,
5% current status (i.e. Ajax has an impressive history but in the past years has won little),
5% other sports presence and
10% sportsmanship and fair-play tradition (counting doping scandals, hooligan behaviour and the likes).
Given these criteria, I'd say let's give
1 point to each National League won, 0.5 to each National Cup won, 5 points to each UEFA/Cup Winners Cup won, 10 points to each European Cup/Champions League won, 2 points for each European Supercup and 3 extra points to each Intercontinental Cup won. National titles points would be multiplied by the UEFA current league coefficient factor (meaning each point counts 1x for England, Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Portugal, Netherlands and Greece, and 0.75x for the rest countries). Thus, Real Madrid would therefore score:
50% Titles, 15% International Presence, 15% Economy, 5% status, 5% other sports, 10% Fair Play.
REAL MADRID
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National League: 29
National Cup: 17
Total National points: 29 + 17/2 ->
37.5 points.
UEFA/CWC Wins: 2 x 5 points ->
10 points.
Supercup: 1 x 2 points ->
2 points.
Intercontinental Cup: 3 x 3 points ->
9 points.
European Cup/Champions League: 9 x 10 ->
90 points.
TOTAL TITLES POINTS: 37.5 + 10 + 2 + 9 + 90 = 148.5 points.
That's 50% of the total. Measuring the rest of the score like:
International Presence (out of 15): 12
Economy (out of 15): 14
Status (out of 5): 3
Other sports (out of 5): 3 (also the most titles winning team in Europe in Basketball)
Fair-Play (out of 10): 7 (generaly an elegant team spirit, but some incidents some years ago at the Bernabéu with that fallen Goal against Dortmund score against).
That'd be a total of:
148.5 + 12 + 14 + 3 + 3 + 7 = 187.5 points
Titles points should be adjusted to weigh 50% of the possible total, but as there's no possible maximum points for titles won, I think this is pretty fair. You might as well divide title points by two should you prefer it, and the total would be 113.25.
I may post other teams score later. This was just a proposal.
