Teamvision? Eat my ass.

LeeJay

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Before I start I'd like to say I'm not a n00b to PES, I've been playing it religiously since PES3 on the PC and can confidently say I'm a pretty advanced player. I regularly beat Chelsea and Arsenal etc around 7-0 in my master league on world class level in PES6, so don't be saying "go practice", or "go play FIFA" (cuz we all know that game is dogshit pie) I just want to know if you guys experience a similar level of being bent over as I do with the 2008 demo...I'm sure you must!

I've been playing on regular level and professional and the PC cheats like I've never known. Anyone agree that teamvision seems to mean: you tackle me and I'll ensure 90% of deflections will go to one of my team members? Either that or the ball will bounce ridiculously between us until you stumble and I'll run away with the ball.

I find it so frustrating that you can't even turn your back to a player without him still taking the ball off you, no matter which direction you move they grab it and run off, even near the bylines. If you make a tackle there, it's about 99% certain it'll go out for a throw-in.

It's stupid, the PC doesn't learn what I do - it sticks it's leg through the back of mine and picks the ball up as my player stands there stunned. Trying to intercept the ball is a complete nightmare because your player is obsessed with either running goalside of their player or likes to do a little shimmy just as your about to make contact with the ball ensuring it's safe path to it's intended target.

I've even noticed that during a 4-3-3 formation with Brazil, because my attacking options are so threatening, when running along the wing with say Adriano or Ronaldinho with no-one in sight, they slow to a snails pace instead of belting it giving the defender loads of time to catch up. It drives me mad.

I'm really gutted, I was hoping Konami was going to make the AI actually clever this year and not resort to CPU cheating, but they've outdone themselves and now pretty much EVERYTHING is scripted.

Looks like it's back to PES6 Masterleague for a while. This demo is doing my head in now, I've not scored for ages!! I won 4-0 against France on my second go, now I can't even beat Turkey with Brazil!

I hope they sort it out for the full release but I doubt it. I've played demo's for PES in the past - PES5 I think, that played slightly differently to the full game, so fingers crossed.
 
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I edited the first part of my post as I anticipated that n00b response, what are you on about? Games convention? 75% etc?
 
The PC/XboX/PS Demo is the one you would have been able to play at the GC in Leipzig, so its mor than 1,5 Months old ;)

It was finished about max. 75% so dont expect too much from it

Also a 5 Minute Game will neither you nor the CPU allow to get a chance to really be prepared on the opponentes tactics
 
The PC/XboX/PS Demo is the one you would have been able to play at the GC in Leipzig, so its mor than 1,5 Months old ;)

It was finished about max. 75% so dont expect too much from it

Also a 5 Minute Game will neither you nor the CPU allow to get a chance to really be prepared on the opponentes tactics
Aren't demos supposed to "hook up" possible game buyers? Something that much unfinished would not do it's purpose. And I don't feel hooked to be honest.
 
Gotta agree with LeeJay and i play pes since ages.
Plus today while i was playing i passed the ball to my player and i got 6 players trying to chase me. They fawking left the defence area with big holes X_X
unbelievable...
 
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Aren't demos supposed to "hook up" possible game buyers? Something that much unfinished would not do it's purpose. And I don't feel hooked to be honest.

Of course they should do, but i think Sony messed up a bit ;)

But believe in me, the Full Version will have another Feeling while playing it, the guys from Winningelevennextgenblog said the same thing
 
Anyone agree that teamvision seems to mean: you tackle me and I'll ensure 90% of deflections will go to one of my team members? Either that or the ball will bounce ridiculously between us until you stumble and I'll run away with the ball.
hmmm strnage, because for me is exactely the oposite...
i think that pes 6 was "the best" at CPU cheat and know it seems that in 2008 the ball goes where it should not at a CPU player
just my 2 cents...
 
Of course they should do, but i think Sony messed up a bit ;)

But believe in me, the Full Version will have another Feeling while playing it, the guys from Winningelevennextgenblog said the same thing

Well you can't say it untill you try the Full Game, so let's wait before spare bullshit. Everyone can say "YEAH THE FULL GAME IS ANOTHER GAME BLAH BLAH"
We'r just saying what we think about the demo, and how much it will suck if the Full Game will be like the demo, that's all ;)
 
Don't get me wrong, PES6 cheats big time as well, but at for some reason, on my PC anyway - it does it far more on 2008. Even if you want to play the simplest of passes when you're a goal or two up, it either picks some random player from nowhere to pass it to, or it is passed so slow the PC intercepts.

I've noticed a get a lot of offsides too, as I press the button, my player delays for a while before passing...just long enough for my striker to run into no mans land.

Well AdrianoPSO, if you're right about the demos age and I hope you are - then we should hopefully be in for a treat when the final comes around, cuz the gameplay apart from the cheating as well as the new graphics is shit hot, they can only make it better...or better at cheating! ;)
 
I didn't know that pretty advanced and religious players enjoy playing in world class level.. Haha... Even my 10-yr old cousin can easily beat chelsea and arsenal with any team in PES in top player level. By the way, you should go practice more if you got time to nag here. Then u will realize that PES2008 is great
 
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