csaunders said:
sorry man, your ignorance is bliss. YOu utterly have a problem with racisim, and its obvious to the whole world except for the spaniards. My country is the greatest imigration country EVER, and there is still racisim here, that has nothing to do with it... Eto'o? how about shaun wright phillips? YOUR ENTIRE CROWD was jumping up and down like a monkey and making monkey noises when you played england.. thats not an
isolated incident, thats not ribbing a player, ITS RACIST! When football is the national sport and your entire crowd of spanish fans are imitating monkeys everytime a black player touches a ball, says alot about spanish culture. And then spaniards like yourself make statements like "he point of the fans was to annoy him"
"that doesn't mean that Spanish people are fat-haters, junkie-haters, gay-haters or fool-haters. That means that fans try to annoy the rival players at all costs"
you excuse it as nothing wrong has happend. Close this thread mods.
Certainly I don't want to hijack this thread, but I won't take this anymore. If your idea of a racist society is that of one in which the crowd at points does that to annoy a rival, you've got a big problem. Spanish fans are not imitating monkeys EVERY TIME a black player touches the ball. It is something that recently has been "in fashion" by some stupid group of fans, but that has nothing to do with the entire feeling of this society.
It is funny how you tell me, a Spaniard, that my "ingnorance is bliss" concerning my own society, in which I live... and you tell me that from afar!
So funny! OK, so you know more of Spanish society than I do... and your knowledge comes from watching a football game and reading the English tabloids. Cool, that's good knowledge. Not that you've experienced that here, have you?
On the contrary, I happened to have been living at the States, and believe me, I wouldn't ever say that the US people build a racist society basing my opinion in, say, a movie like "Crash", although it clearly portraits that idea. My experience did not show me that, and I could well be wrong, but I wouldn't make such a statement so fast.
So please, be respectful with other people's countries, do not try to teach me how my country is or is not. Maybe the problem is that you only take a peek at the surface, people like you and the tabloid writers hear a monkey noise from a group of stupid fans and scream "racism!", but do not care about what's inside. I say I certainly prefer a society in which stupid fans make that noises but at the end of the day are respectful with the ones that come from abroad and try to make a living here, than a society in which nobody ever says nothing "politically incorrect", but then, behind that mask, show a trend to segregate and discriminate.
Speaking of Spanish culture, I'd be delighted to read a couple of lines from you to see how much do you know of our thousands of years of history or culture.
Please, cut the crap. We're not a racist society. Muslim immigrants are very common here, and we had ZERO problems after the 11-M terrorist attacks with them. Instead, all the society joined in a call of support to them, knowing that they had nothing to do. That's not what a racist society does.
