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Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Saying that, I agree with you in the sense that I don't come into this sub-forum to read about FIFA, whether people are saying it's shite or it's great. I don't come to Evo-Web to read EXCLUSIVELY about PES - if that's all that was allowed on here I wouldn't bother because I'm not a fan of the series as it is now. I come here for the people (who I've conversed with for years), and luckily for me a lot of the people have started playing FIFA. They're not trying to convince anyone of anything, they're staying in the FIFA sub-forum and discussing the game. I don't see what harm they're doing. BUT, I don't go into threads like this one to read about FIFA, and that is annoying. Perhaps you think the moderators could be more strict on that front? I don't know.
(No offence intended, I'm just putting that in the context that you yourself put it in. I may as well say that bananas are the best fruit in the world and if nobody else appreciates the difference in taste between a banana and a technically inferior apple then more fool them, the idiots.)
Not sure where you read me saying I'd only use assisted controls, everyone who plays me knows I use semi-everything. Perhaps I said that before I'd got used to it, but either way, having more control over the passing is something I think all football games can benefit from, just as long as you don't constantly play people using auto-everything online (which they do as of now, hopefully in FIFA 10 that won't be the case or yet again I won't be playing online more than once a month).
See, I'm not arguing with your opinion on either game (just the fact that you seem to think of it as a fact) - in the second-to-last FIFA podcast I did (which I don't expect you to listen to for obvious reasons), I actually said that after a week playing PES2009 while I was holiday you realise that the game has several things over FIFA, including the fact that you have to pass about to force a gap to start an attack - whereas FIFA the way it is now is just back and forth, through-ball to striker, lofted-through-ball down the wing. No midfield play whatsoever, apart from the guys who go 1-0 up and then do what you said with the fully-assisted controls (pass pass pass).
But either way, I see the good and bad in both games, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, and my point is - well if you can't cope with FIFA chat on Evo-Web then that's your problem and not ours, tbh. The only posts I seem to read of yours lately are bitching about people thinking PES is shit, then you go on and post how FIFA is shit. Two wrongs don't make a right (and in this instance both are equally annoying).
In the PES sub-forums though I agree, there should be no mention of FIFA. There is a FIFA v PES thread somewhere - I don't know if it was locked but if it was, perhaps it needs to be started again and all comparisons moved into it, with the entirely irrelevant posts that don't contribute to discussion deleted.
EDIT: From another thread...
Why can't a forum have both? I think that's a very narrow-minded point of view, and when you say "trying to convince people" that's not exactly true; look how many people go into the FIFA threads and arrange FIFA matches etc. no convincing necessary. A lot of people prefer FIFA now and see things in it that you don't, end of story.
Saying that, I agree with you in the sense that I don't come into this sub-forum to read about FIFA, whether people are saying it's shite or it's great. I don't come to Evo-Web to read EXCLUSIVELY about PES - if that's all that was allowed on here I wouldn't bother because I'm not a fan of the series as it is now. I come here for the people (who I've conversed with for years), and luckily for me a lot of the people have started playing FIFA. They're not trying to convince anyone of anything, they're staying in the FIFA sub-forum and discussing the game. I don't see what harm they're doing. BUT, I don't go into threads like this one to read about FIFA, and that is annoying. Perhaps you think the moderators could be more strict on that front? I don't know.
Again, you wouldn't waste your time or effort, and yet you are. And your opinion is not fact. If you think it is, then more fool you.
(No offence intended, I'm just putting that in the context that you yourself put it in. I may as well say that bananas are the best fruit in the world and if nobody else appreciates the difference in taste between a banana and a technically inferior apple then more fool them, the idiots.)Not sure where you read me saying I'd only use assisted controls, everyone who plays me knows I use semi-everything. Perhaps I said that before I'd got used to it, but either way, having more control over the passing is something I think all football games can benefit from, just as long as you don't constantly play people using auto-everything online (which they do as of now, hopefully in FIFA 10 that won't be the case or yet again I won't be playing online more than once a month).
See, I'm not arguing with your opinion on either game (just the fact that you seem to think of it as a fact) - in the second-to-last FIFA podcast I did (which I don't expect you to listen to for obvious reasons), I actually said that after a week playing PES2009 while I was holiday you realise that the game has several things over FIFA, including the fact that you have to pass about to force a gap to start an attack - whereas FIFA the way it is now is just back and forth, through-ball to striker, lofted-through-ball down the wing. No midfield play whatsoever, apart from the guys who go 1-0 up and then do what you said with the fully-assisted controls (pass pass pass).
But either way, I see the good and bad in both games, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, and my point is - well if you can't cope with FIFA chat on Evo-Web then that's your problem and not ours, tbh. The only posts I seem to read of yours lately are bitching about people thinking PES is shit, then you go on and post how FIFA is shit. Two wrongs don't make a right (and in this instance both are equally annoying).
In the PES sub-forums though I agree, there should be no mention of FIFA. There is a FIFA v PES thread somewhere - I don't know if it was locked but if it was, perhaps it needs to be started again and all comparisons moved into it, with the entirely irrelevant posts that don't contribute to discussion deleted.
EDIT: From another thread...
See Jimmy, the guy you're replying to there didn't mention FIFA at all, but you couldn't resist sticking that line in. If you want other people to listen to you and stop bitching about PES being worse than FIFA in the PES threads, then you should provide a better example. You can't help yourself so how can you expect anyone else to?
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). But if you don't want any FIFA talk on the forum at all, not even in designated sub-forums, then... I just don't understand why you've got such a big problem with it. What possible harm is it doing? If people come into these threads and say "PES is shit lol" then yeah, they're idiots, but the mods deal with that.
, just to add though this forum is far from a sham, we have hundreds(if not thousands) of PES players, fans and Modders on here, just because some people have a differing opinion to you does not mean they should be barred from giving it and the same goes the other way, if you find a post inappropriate or offencive use the report button...
