Pes 5 with 90% lower Top Speed and 30% lower Agility gameplay

Something that also creates an interesting gameplay in pes5/we9/le for me is boosting agility to high values like 85 and more but reducing consistency to a maximum of 4, CPU becomes a bit more aggresive and adept in attack but it still fails a good amount of passes and shots.

I also apply a reduction to acceleration rather than top speed, and play with this setting for the condition arrows in the gameplay module to stabilize the game even more:

# Tweaked condition arrows options
tweaked-condition-arrows.enabled = 1
excellent-condition.replacement = good
good-condition.replacement = normal
normal-condition.replacement = normal
poor-condition.replacement = normal
terrible-condition.replacement = poor
 
benga0800 said:
Something that also creates an interesting gameplay in pes5/we9/le for me is boosting agility to high values like 85 and more but reducing consistency to a maximum of 4, CPU becomes a bit more aggresive and adept in attack but it still fails a good amount of passes and shots.

I also apply a reduction to acceleration rather than top speed, and play with this setting for the condition arrows in the gameplay module to stabilize the game even more:

# Tweaked condition arrows options
tweaked-condition-arrows.enabled = 1
excellent-condition.replacement = good
good-condition.replacement = normal
normal-condition.replacement = normal
poor-condition.replacement = normal
terrible-condition.replacement = poor
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Could you share some gameplay footage?
 
Hi, congratulations for your idea, I watched the videos on YouTube and signed up. I'd like to ask you a couple of things:
1) what do you mean when you recommend reducing Top speed by 90% and agility by 30%?
90x99:100 = 89.1 (89)
30x99:100 = 29.7 (30)
So ,go to the Pes Editor and lower all the players - 89 Top speed and - 30 agility?

2) I would really like to have this Pes 5 patch, it's wonderful
 
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Raff992 said:
Hi, congratulations for your idea, I watched the videos on YouTube and signed up. I'd like to ask you a couple of things:
1) what do you mean when you recommend reducing speed by 90% and agility by 30%?
90x99:100 = 89.1 (89)
30x99:100 = 29.7 (30)
So ,go to the Pes Editor and lower all the players - 89 speed and - 30 agility?

2) I would really like to have this Pes 5 patch, it's wonderful
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1) this was the easiest way to share
2) download from post 11: https://evoweb.uk/threads/pes-5-world-patch-2005-06-2005.90785/
 
Raff992 said:
perfect, thank you, I really appreciate it
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Im not fully satisfied, my main gripe is that defenders are faster than the player with the ball, so i put everyones dribble speed up to 99. Currently im tinkering again with top speed and will potentially change agility again. I will upload a new video tomorrow with 99 dribble speed, 1 top speed and -30% agility, i would love to hear your opinion. (i think its even better this way, not sure if to do slight reduction in agility) If you want to tinker yourself, make sure to screen record, because it look faster when watching afterwards vs feeling when playing.
 
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Here is a 99 dribble speed, 1 top speed and -30% agility broadcast 3 game, ultimate reality test. You better watch this one and give me some feedback lads, it was rage inducing playing through this one with the unusual camera, also instigated by a Dida bottle job.
 
Donmikan said:
What exactly does it change?
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It makes the CPU players / teams make better ‘decisions’ they play with more fluency. For example one of the things that used to bug me in PES5 is when the CPU gets in a good position from a pass when attacking but then would step over the ball allow it to go out of play for a goal kick. With higher Team Work they do it a lot less.

Try increasing all players Team Work by 15 points and play a few games. Would be good to know what you think. Somebody posted about this years ago, I will try to find it.
 
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geeeeee said:
I found the thread from over 10 years ago.

@El Pajaro is the man behind it :D

Thread 'PES 5 with lowered agility & game speed = Still the best'
https://evoweb.uk/threads/pes-5-with-lowered-agility-game-speed-still-the-best.70608/
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Exactly - this is where I took the idea from.

@benga0800 , after testing it some time ago I decided lowering Top Speed works better than lowering Acceleration. I feel it does a better job reducing the overall pace and a "gamey" feeling. Then I also play with 0.85 speeder setting, but that's another story :D
 
Tinker said:
Exactly - this is where I took the idea from.

@benga0800 , after testing it some time ago I decided lowering Top Speed works better than lowering Acceleration. I feel it does a better job reducing the overall pace and a "gamey" feeling. Then I also play with 0.85 speeder setting, but that's another story :D
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Yeah you are right about this, but i don't like to lower speed stats to much because animations for when the players are going to pick the ball look very "funny", like their footwork speed doesn't match with the speed at wich they are actually advancing.

Maybe we can reduce/randomize the speed values for all player between a specific range, we can have in account the slowest teams in the default game to find suitable values that don't break these animations.

For example, in original pes5 we have the Slovenia national team, if you like to play with low-tier teams, you will note that this team moves very smoothly on the pitch, analyzing a bit some of the speed and physical values of this squad we have the following average values

Balance = 81-83
Top Speed = 73-75
Acceleration = 70-72
Agility = 70-72
Dribble Spd = 67-69
Short Pass Spd = 66-68
Long Pass Spd = 70-72
Shot Power = 79-81
 
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