My 3,5 cent about reactions to post PES6 games and about expectations.
1. The mythical PES6 was not as good as it seems now.It definitely was seen as a step back from PES5. Even then the expectations were too high. It was seens as a step back by both large parts of the community and by the "professional" reviewers.
2. Nevertheless PES6 was good enough to have huge expectations for the next installment for (then of course) next gen consoles.
3. It seems the development team struggled with both PS3 and Xbox 360 and the games after PES6 were huge disappointments.
4. By then there was a schism in the community: FIFA made a huge step forward and some people here turned to the dark side (this is humour), others (like me) were blind and kept believing that Konami would turn it around.
5. What happened then (and is still continuing today) is that every yearwe got the same discussion between believers and non-believers. People over here literally posted that they hoped Seabass and his childeren would get cancer (and were not even banned for it). The PES believers did similar things (but i only remember the cancer post, it must be 8 or 9 years ago, but i still remember it). This thread became a sewer.
6. Because of the bad games, because people got older and looked different towards gaming (nostalgic), PES6 got this (totally undeserved) mythical status even if Konami had a few reasonably good games (notably PES2011, a game that was far from pefect, but imo better than PES6).
7. Each year expectations got higher an Konami made stupid mistakes, bad PR, lost licenses, sold less games and diminished the development team and lost even more licenses. It became some sort of downward spiral.
8. With PES2014 Konami hit rock bottom and a turning point. If PES 2014 would have hit the stores 3 months later, this could have been a good game, but now it seems a game that was rushed and not tested (surely?).
9. Since PES2015, Konami is doing a better job with PES. In my very humble opinion PES2017 was a good game (not an outstanding). I still play it. Some people don't like it...i don't understand them, but i respect their opinion.
10. Still lots of people are not satisfied with what Konami does, and frankly in a way i do understand them. To me it is a fact that that EA is more customer friendly than Konami. I don't like FIFA17, but EA are great in atmospheric details (the licenses, the stadiums, the commentary, the online servers and lots of litle things were Konami still make mistakes because they have less money and because the y don't allow customers to ...customise their games. But i'm sick and tired of the people who come here and only post negative posts without arguments and repeat themsleves for months... Some of them don't respect my opinion. Because they think i'm not critical (which is wrong, i clearly see flaws and post about them) they act superior and i don't feel 'protected' by all mods in this thread (i know this is a very difficult thread to moderate and i was once asked by Mart to become a mod and refused, because i'm sure i would be a very bad mod).
11. What i don't like at all is that some people spoil the enjoyment i have of the game. I don't care if people are critical with arguments. I really hate it when people keep on posting the same unfunded bullshit and lies. You can't talk about Brexit (why not? We live in a free countries, don't we?), but people who don't respect other opinions or wish that a developer and his family gets cancers, can get away with it (see also everything that is written about Adam Bhatti).
Sorry for this long rant...this community needs more humour, i miss guys like Joostebrood... must be getting old.
