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PES 2016 News & Discussion Thread
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Yessssss☝
Server (PES) peer_peer to peer
Thiiiiiiis
backward and primitive system
This causes Laaaaq and cheater
Should play a ML with those settings, will take your experience to another level again especially the brasilian league, unfortunately online is broken, i played a few games with some randoms and they constantly double pressure you, players dont get penalized for that and until konami fixes that issue, i wont even bother playing, unless i hook up with a few guys from here.
I have tried this and I notice that the animations are jerky and not as smooth as without kits. Uninstalled them so slightly disappointed but then again I never really used kits as edit in game normally.
glenn0
Conference
Well, it's either great gameplay or visual authenticity, Konami make you choose. They should have adapted their coding framework to accommodate kit image files within the game's structure.
I find playing PES 2016 a gradually depressing experience with the kits installed, I think it actually affects my general wellbeing over a number of games! So I think I have to choose to not play it. If there were more licenses in the game, I could deal with the lack of kit importing, but this year Konami lost even more.
lopiop
League 1
- 26 November 2014
i just played an exhibition using bayern munich. wow, the whole team feels so op, robben is faster than anybody else and the defence is so strong, midfield also wins all the 50-50s
glenn0
Conference
Haven't checked on purely the emblems, but really, I don't have the time to edit the kits myself, especially considering the end product is so underwhelming compared to amazing HD kits this year that I have been using.
I might just play some master league within a continental licensed league, but then you have to contend with European and domestic cup matches against putrid looking fake kitted teams. Oh well, what can you do.
I don't use the kits imported but I will correct the colour internally in the game.
gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
any kit suggestions to fix shooting, goalkeepers, passing assistance and referees?
cheers
cheers
glenn0
Conference
How about you stop posting uninformed snappy responses like that? It has been a flaw in the game since the PS3 days.
and editing ingame don't affect gameplay?
glenn0
Conference
Correct. The tools involved for editing in-game are native to the application, so it makes no difference to the in-game experience.
So long as you don't import images external to PES, it manages to hold itself together. I've tested this extensively.
thanks, so import club emblems and competition logos will also affect it in your opinion?
sando
vitesse arnhem since 1892
- 8 October 2007
i love the game so much and i don't have any complain but only the night matches...
i fully agree with you: day games are so nice and night games are graphically so bad....
glenn0
Conference
Afraid so, yes. It's crazy that Konami allow this to happen time and time again.
Yeah F*** the kits, go to zero passing assistance, and manual shooting. Can't help with the refs, maybe just try more fancy footwork to get fouled more often.
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zeemeister
foxy engine
I am not convinced that kits affect anything sorry. Why not make a video because I sure as hell can't see anything.
I've only recently noticed it. It would be very difficult to post a video as what I've experienced it is lack of smoothness when the imported kits are installed I think this would be difficult to capture via video. When they are not installed however I found the animations, when I control a player, to be more fluid as opposed to the slightly jerky and erratic animations with installed kits. But it is not that obvious. I went back and fourth between installed and vanilla many times playing the same game same settings to test it. Their is a difference.
DuduBR9
Champions League
- 25 July 2010
Do you play with the original squad or with the crap ML players ?
I was playing with the ML fictitious players and I was not enjoying it very much playing on superstar.
Im going to give it a try at top player, seems to be more fair on top player.
Albiore
Championship
I find some interesting stuff in classig players teams, some ones have their callnames (if you licence it)
These players have his own callnames, and maybe appears in MyClub Classic players in the future:
David Beckham
Paul Scholes
Luis Figo
Filippo Inzaghi
Oliver Kahn
Hidetoshi Nakata
Roberto Baggio
what do you think?
These players have his own callnames, and maybe appears in MyClub Classic players in the future:
David Beckham
Paul Scholes
Luis Figo
Filippo Inzaghi
Oliver Kahn
Hidetoshi Nakata
Roberto Baggio
what do you think?
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zeemeister
foxy engine
Defo not oliver kahn he was the first player to have a problem with his depiction on a video game lol
Chimps-with-quiffs
Champions League
- 11 August 2003
After absolutely loving this game, I feel gutted that I don't think I will be able to play a master league on it this year after starting one today. This is partly because of the vast difference in how it looks at night, where you are forced to play almost your entirety of games and the ease of scoring when you get a player that can make space for himself
So far I have played with smaller teams in exhibition mode. When you have two teams where the players between teams are balanced and forwards aren't quick enough to get away from defenders the game plays great. If you select a few of the stadiums through the day it looks amazing.
Unfortunately the new weather system removes even more games from the master league played in sunshine and makes virtually every game look bleak and washed out
Then I bought a couple of forwards who had a bit more about them and the game was ruined with me being able to run from kick off and score from outside the box and goals from anywhere else seemed to lose any joy as most shots go in
I have asked for them to unlock selection of time of day in master league and cups on Twitter. If they did this and reduced shooting and increased the tenacity that players challenge you for the ball to stop running through them easily, this could be a brilliant game
I find some interesting stuff in classig players teams, some ones have their callnames (if you licence it)
These players have his own callnames, and maybe appears in MyClub Classic players in the future:
David Beckham
Paul Scholes
Luis Figo
Filippo Inzaghi
Oliver Kahn
Hidetoshi Nakata
Roberto Baggio
what do you think?
There is no Beckham or Scholes in the PAL version, only Figo, inzaghi, Baggio, Kahn and Nakata.
Pere Ubu
Championship
- 29 October 2002
I would be fascinated to see your data... seriously. Please post the results of your tests. Because others have tested this extensively and come to the opposite conclusion. Including - for what it's worth - people who work for Konami (who heard about this crap years ago and checked it out, just in case).
Look, I'm not trying to be snarky, but every year there are a couple of people trying to spread this stuff, and like it's a bloody plague. One game of PES is completely different to another, we all know that, right? Sometimes it's smooth as cream, other times you feel like you're playing on a swamp in a tornado. Same teams, same conditions, everything. It's all part of the "magic" of PES. Now, there are countless people here - as there are every year - telling you that what you're experiencing is just this kind of fluctuation in gameplay, and they've noticed no consistent problems with imported kits. None whatsoever. People like me, who are ancient, and have been playing PES games since the 1990s, and have heard this stuff year after year...
Well, a very small minority have "reported" this... and they've all been wrong. And what's more, lots of them have made completely nonsensical claims like "it defaults to a beta version" or "there are fewer animations" which just makes it clear that they have absolutely no idea what the hell they're talking about. I'm not exactly a top programmer, but I know enough about how computer games work to tell you right now, this stuff is garbage. It's not "a fact" at all.
What is POSSIBLE is that the game could become more sluggish and maybe slightly less responsive - nothing more than that - because of the strain of dealing with imported images, but this would only really make sense if the kits were a.) higher res than the in-game kits, or b.) in a different format. I'm pretty sure that b.) is not true, and I don't know about a.) (we've all noticed that imported kits look fuzzier in-game than native kits, and I dunno what's going on there). But the console loads the kits at the beginning of the game - I'm pretty sure it doesn't keep having to read them from the hard drive - so in theory even this shouldn't be a problem. And indeed, it doesn't seem to be a problem. For 99% of people.
If you want to play without the imported kits, and you're sure it makes a difference, that's cool. But most people disagree, so please don't go around insisting that this is a "fact" and acting like there must be something wrong with the rest of us.
It would probably also be nice if you didn't keep trying to hook more impressionable readers on this weird placebo, so they end up playing with crappy brown-and-orange striped Konami kits for the rest of their lives, telling themselves it's better this way. But I suppose that's their look-out. I'll stick with the nice kits, anyway, thanks.
That is exactly what I meant when I first made my post. I feel a little difference with player movements. Not that obvious, but slightly jerky and erratic animations like you mentioned. Some lost smothness, yet nothing that changes the game or how the game flows.
TBH I don't see a change in gameplay at all. Game plays the same way as before.
Maybe it is just a problem with processing those kits, don't know how those added kits are loaded internaly. Cause teams that have real kits pre installed are not affected.
aliheidari2520
Championship
juhu00[2];3093288 said:
I don't think so ...
the templates are exactly same to licensed kit, same format, same resolution, etc
there is no reason to be different with pre install kits
indeed they only permitted us to access to that part of game.
I can't believe a data with about 1 MB size (or lesser) make challenge for console or game processing when demo had more than 3 GB which I guess at least 2.5 GB of that was about on pitch data
if we assume 25 MB for 22 kit, it's 1% of 2.5 GB
apart from original kits have a size itself, and we should assume difference between imported kits and original kits that would be less than 25 MB
I'm playing with there real squad