People actually pre-order games? More fool them
If gameplay is not 100% 1:1 with ps4 gameplay I will just not feed this greedy decieving monster, called Konami and will skip this year's pes ( not hopping for the best next year, that would be too much to ask from me ).
Fair point, but if its not to your liking (I get a feeling and I place a sportsman's bet it wont) will you fill a new thread up with more Konami slapping? I wonder ... or just accept it and then maybe get PS4 version or Fifa? If the gameplay matches your expectations but you are staring at shit graphics as you put it, how will you cope for a year?

Seems you want better graphics as seen on PS4 and the game-play of PS4 ... so the answer this year to match your requirement would be ................... no escaping it, its not good, but thats all there is this year.
I cant wait for demo for 2 reasons:
1) So I can actually bloody tell for myself through the confusion noise and mess of videos and on-line judgements what its like
2) To sit back and watch the next thread post demo fill up with the repeat of the next self fulfilling prophecy posters and the last 35 pages on a recycle
Oh and BTW I dont think the graphics are completely shit (minecraft graphics are to me what would be "shit"), they are just shit if you compare them to what you wont get on PC ... if you don't, they are good enough as last year, just look for a price that matches your expectation when ordering (seeking them offers and bargains) and dont ever pre order anyway. I have said this before (honestly the last time) but I dont feel its worth the full asking price so thats where I "make a difference" to what Konami are delivering to me.
That way I still support them to a point of a unit sale (rather than assist in justifying no sales on PC and it dying a death) and I still get a footy game this year, but I didn't show my full appreciation for getting it day one or paying the asking price.