PES 2015 Discussion thread. PC

I don't know if I should spend my money on a new console, just to get entrance scenes, or if I should upgrade my computer. It's about the same price. If the "next gen" version actually offered me something special, I would get it.
 
Jamezinho said:
I shouldn't bite, but folk like you happily accepting mediocrity are part of the reason why PES is where it is.
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I, and I suspect many others, think PES is in a better position after last year's mess. Konami made the effort and hopefully they will keep-up the momentum

Condemning the game on the basis of a missing, and wholly irrelevant aspect to the gameplay is being churlish. Write to Konami and ask them to include it next year.

If you think that giving an opinion - a riposte to the constant negativity around here - constitutes trolling , then sorry but I can't help you.
 
jaboy said:
I, and I suspect many others, think PES is in a better position after last year's mess. Konami made the effort and hopefully they will keep-up the momentum

Condemning the game on the basis of a missing, and wholly irrelevant aspect to the gameplay is being churlish. Write to Konami and ask them to include it next year.

If you think that giving an opinion - a riposte to the constant negativity around here - constitutes trolling , then sorry but I can't help you.
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Trolling? Oh my god. Konami is trolling us. Yeah, I bet you think it's superb that you won't get the atmosphere and tension before matches when players are walking into the pitch and lines up for the cl-hymn. They should've just deleted CL from the PC version. Makes no sense. No, they should've just removed every game mode except exhibition mode. I bet they were thinking about it. And those substitution cut scenes you get like once in 100 matches, I bet they just forgot to remove it completely. So if you are satisfied with this bull shitting from konami, go and play the game instead of visiting the forums?
 
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patzor said:
Trolling? Oh my god. Konami is trolling us. Yeah, I bet you think it's superb that you won't get the atmosphere and tension before matches when players are walking into the pitch and lines up for the cl-hymn. They should've just deleted CL from the PC version. Makes no sense. No, they should've just removed every game mode except exhibition mode. I bet they were thinking about it. And those substitution cut scenes you get like once in 100 matches, I bet they just forgot to remove it completely. So if you are satisfied with this bull shitting from konami, go and play the game instead of visiting the forums?
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Fair enough. Enjoy being soused in negativity. Bang your head against the wall all you like - nothing will change by moaning about it here.

It's a good game this year.

Bye.
 
jaboy said:
Fair enough. Enjoy being soused in negativity. Bang your head against the wall all you like - nothing will change by moaning about it here.

It's a good game this year.

Bye.
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I actually feel quite positive overall in my life. This is just a video game, so it doesn't really affect me that way. But this is a game that I payed for. And konami have been extremely diffuse when it's coming to marketing and information, so I feel kinda cheated. But I guess some people don't care about that. This is going a bit off topic now. And I, as many others, will continue to critise konami for their mistakes. What else are we gonna do?
 
That's the problem, KONAMI not being honest. If they were honest about all the shit they decided to take off the gmae, I would have waited until the price drops to a place where I believe it's fair pricing. The Demo came out late, and then it has some of thse things that were taken off the actual game. What is even more obvious and makes me even more upset is that KONAMI have done it on purpose. Not sure whether it's because they want the PS4 game to look better or because they still have ill will against pc gamers, but either way they way we start viewing an analyzing this game should be from a negative standpoint. The gameplay is fine, but not amazing, certainly not good enough to overlook all that other shit.
 
lopiop said:
Pc graphics is shittier and input lag is sporadic on pc. Omissions that arent justifiable such as entrance scene by konami on pc. Though awesome community patches are fixing the wrongs made by konami
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so the gameplay is exact same? lag refers to online?

If so ill buy pc version for my ML and BAL etc..so i can get the real kits/names/bundesliga etc with pc patches

Then ill use ps4 for online only.

This is a good idea?
 
pesfan2016 said:
I had a friend over (he has it on ps4 , me on PC) and he said gameplay on pc is nothing like gameplay on ps4.

I'm more concerned about online play on pc. leaving alone all the fuss about cheaters there are other things that literaly drive me mad:
1. input delay on some matches is awful. i get delays for 2-3 seconds between button press-action. unplayable. defeat is the only result
2. colision system is broken. i see adversaries running with the ball thru my players like they are nothing and my defender aren't connecting with the ball, they just run thru it. sometimes they are surprised by it and they bump in to it. it's like they don't eve know it's there ,wich leads to no.3
3. ball awereness...close to 0. players will enter into "barely catching ball" animation even though you alredy got the ball very close to to the feet
4. what i like to call : stumblemania. simply every time a player takes your ball your player falls like it was shot by a sniper, without even being a hard tacle or a tackle at all.
also teamates bump in to you, take your ball, and also cursor doesn't change in time so adversary is gets it with any stress
5. match scripting. some times every pass you power into an opponent , jumps back to another player of the opponent. most times in a better possition than it was. also the same with tackles. i had a situation: i tacked 3 times in a row the adversary and the ball kept jumping back to one of its players...ended up getting a goal.
7. slow turning anymations witch result again in stumbles when the oponent dashes at you. while your player barely turns your opponent gets the ball and is half way to your keeper. sometimes players turns in such a way that the they go thru the whole defence (collision system and ball un-awarness combined)
8. top players dash thru cheese...match strart -> you could dash forward untill you are left alone with the keeper.
9. thru ball exploit: thru balls are just to easy, especialy with top players.
defenders seem to be handicapted, can't do shit to defend agains this.
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so then tell us what is the difference about gameplay between pc and ps4..just tell us the difference...
 
I have both the ps4 and pc versions, and I think the gameplay is basically the same. The ps4 version is more smooth and fluid, but that's because of the poor optimization on the pc version by Konami
 
jacb said:
I have both the ps4 and pc versions, and I think the gameplay is basically the same. The ps4 version is more smooth and fluid, but that's because of the poor optimization on the pc version by Konami
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I strongly disgree. I have both too, and I think the PS4 version is a lot "smarter". Plus, players react faster too. I do agree with you about the fact that it's also smoother and more fluid.
 
Chuny said:
I strongly disgree. I have both too, and I think the PS4 version is a lot "smarter". Plus, players react faster too. I do agree with you about the fact that it's also smoother and more fluid.
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I don't know. I've seen some pretty bad reaction issues and ball watching on my ps4 version as well.
 
pesorfifa said:
so the gameplay is exact same? lag refers to online?

If so ill buy pc version for my ML and BAL etc..so i can get the real kits/names/bundesliga etc with pc patches

Then ill use ps4 for online only.

This is a good idea?
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If you wanna buy the game on PC just as a digital version, let me know.
I´d like to sell my key, for a good price of course.

Reason: Trying to feel this game, but it doesn´t click as it should be.
I´m quite happy with the other footy game so far.
 
banbenbin said:
That's the problem, KONAMI not being honest. If they were honest about all the shit they decided to take off the gmae, I would have waited until the price drops to a place where I believe it's fair pricing.
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I waited two days to read the user reviews, and all the "shit" they removed was discussed and fully known. So in other words, you're blaming Konami, when in fact it was you who rushed out and bought the game without reading up on it first. No excuse for that, especially after the past several years of PES releases.
 
I believe i found the best way to play MyClub online. Create two squads, one with your best players and one with your worst players. Alternate two matches with each and you avoid fatigue. Also, in the worst players squad, just release them when contracts are up and u get bonus gp as well for it, you'll have plenty of agents to replace them.

With your strong team, just search for no restriction matchmaking, difference is not that big against top decked teams, your personal skill will matter the most. With the worse team, search for similar strength teams, games can be quite fun with terrible players :). Problem is, sometimes the game will match with with an opponent that has a similar strength team that contains ibrahimovic, gotze, ronaldo etc. Most probably these are cheaters so just add them in your ignore list.

Doing this, you will avoid having to farm GP against CPU (wasting time) and once every 4...6 matches (depends how good you are, the more wins the better) you can afford to sign a new top agent player.

Good luck and have fun.

p.s. someone using sweetfx, can u please quickly tell us where every file goes? Directly in the game folder?
 
im planning to buy the game on pc for xmas. the digital version is around 20 Euro atm at g2a so hopefuly it will still drop. so my question is this version have any kind of problem with patches as the 2014 digital game had? anyone has the digital?
 
elloco said:
who is playing with emotion "on" ??

ive notice offline against friends this game is so much better with emotion "on" as it is with this setting "off" this is wired because PES 2014 with emo on was so worse!
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emotion on means your players will get retarded or superhuman regarding the result, statistics. what a bullshit. best call from konami to have an option to turn it off, its more competitive that way. means no scrpiting :APPLAUD:
this is one of the main reason i gave up FIFA
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
im planning to buy the game on pc for xmas. the digital version is around 20 Euro atm at g2a so hopefuly it will still drop. so my question is this version have any kind of problem with patches as the 2014 digital game had? anyone has the digital?
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Since the game installs in steam, there should be no difference. No problems in other words.
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
Cool thanks.

What could this region: global means?
https://www.g2a.com/pro-evolution-soccer-2015-steam-cd-key-global.html?___store=english

i just dont want to buy a game where i get opponents from the other side of the planet


edit: i see now, i buy the key from others if im right

edit2: can i play the game online if i buy it from someone? :O
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1. Region: Global means the game can be activated on Steam from everywhere in the world. That means it has no regional restrictions like for example Russian region-locked games, which can be activated only from a Russian IP (or through a VPN but that's a bit of a legal grey area).

2. You will not play with people from the other side of the planet unless you choose to. As far as I know, there are lobbies in-game and the match-making system is approximate to your location, meaning you'll probably get matched with people from Europe (almost) all the time.

3. If you buy a second hand key, it won't work unless you buy the whole Steam account. After a game key has been activated from an account on Steam, it is permanently tied to it. That means you can't buy and activate a key which has already been activated on another account.
 
pesfan2016 said:
I had a friend over (he has it on ps4 , me on PC) and he said gameplay on pc is nothing like gameplay on ps4.

I'm more concerned about online play on pc. leaving alone all the fuss about cheaters there are other things that literaly drive me mad:
1. input delay on some matches is awful. i get delays for 2-3 seconds between button press-action. unplayable. defeat is the only result
2. colision system is broken. i see adversaries running with the ball thru my players like they are nothing and my defender aren't connecting with the ball, they just run thru it. sometimes they are surprised by it and they bump in to it. it's like they don't eve know it's there ,wich leads to no.3
3. ball awereness...close to 0. players will enter into "barely catching ball" animation even though you alredy got the ball very close to to the feet
4. what i like to call : stumblemania. simply every time a player takes your ball your player falls like it was shot by a sniper, without even being a hard tacle or a tackle at all.
also teamates bump in to you, take your ball, and also cursor doesn't change in time so adversary is gets it with any stress
5. match scripting. some times every pass you power into an opponent , jumps back to another player of the opponent. most times in a better possition than it was. also the same with tackles. i had a situation: i tacked 3 times in a row the adversary and the ball kept jumping back to one of its players...ended up getting a goal.
7. slow turning anymations witch result again in stumbles when the oponent dashes at you. while your player barely turns your opponent gets the ball and is half way to your keeper. sometimes players turns in such a way that the they go thru the whole defence (collision system and ball un-awarness combined)
8. top players dash thru cheese...match strart -> you could dash forward untill you are left alone with the keeper.
9. thru ball exploit: thru balls are just to easy, especialy with top players.
defenders seem to be handicapted, can't do shit to defend agains this.
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+1
 
spektarm said:
1. Region: Global means the game can be activated on Steam from everywhere in the world. That means it has no regional restrictions like for example Russian region-locked games, which can be activated only from a Russian IP (or through a VPN but that's a bit of a legal grey area).

2. You will not play with people from the other side of the planet unless you choose to. As far as I know, there are lobbies in-game and the match-making system is approximate to your location, meaning you'll probably get matched with people from Europe (almost) all the time.

3. If you buy a second hand key, it won't work unless you buy the whole Steam account. After a game key has been activated from an account on Steam, it is permanently tied to it. That means you can't buy and activate a key which has already been activated on another account.
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thanks but how sould i know that before if i buy something at g2a for exmaple? i havent found any info about a product if its used or not.
i want to play online btw
 
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G2A.com and other similar sites DO NOT sell second hand copies. What you get is a new, unused key which you then activate on Steam.
I've bought a few games from G2A and I can honestly say they're trustworthy. :)
 
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