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PC PES 2014 discussion thread

abriroyesejuiii said:
ML play, give opportunity (2014)
when you discover the errors of the game, try once more 2013
2014..Player response is rubbish, no dynamics, everything is heavy, slow and ridiculous.
I understand they want the simulation, but this is a joke

pass, shotting, GK..and others.............
the only thing that has "improved" graphics and some animations are (not all, some very exaggerated)

but looking like a "complete game" is a disrespect and a mockery to all,GAMEPLAY GAMEPLAY

november no patch? 2 months? THANKS!!!
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I personally do not want to go back to PES 2013 and before gameplay or pace after playing alot PES 2014.

PES 2013's bugs even more silly than PES 2014. Not to mention their lack of CPU AI passing around.
 
Vieirinha said:
History repeats itself.
Fifa 14 is LAST GEN on PC. Just like was FIFA 07 (on Xbox 360 it was just like FIFA 14 is on Xbone/PS4). Soo if we judge by last EA's track things will go like:
Last Gen:
FIFA 07/FIFA 14
FIFA 08/FIFA 15
FIFA 09/FIFA 16
FIFA 10/FIFA 17

SemiNext Gen:
FIFA 11(aka FIFA 10.5)/FIFA 18

Same as console version:
FIFA 12/FIFA 19

So in October of 2018 PC users will get the SAME version of the consoles.
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If they don't release a proper Next-Gen version next year, then why bother with PC users at all?

What's the point of dedicating time and releasing the same experience than the other main consoles, if soon you'll leave PC users abandoned?

Don't you think what you say would backfire against EA, I mean, screwing users twice?

Next-gen consoles have PC-like architectures, so it will be easier and cheaper to just develop for PC as a base and then port to PS4/Xbox One, than having to mantain a current-gen version.

Also, in PC you can buy FUT packs. That's the only thing EA actually cares.

That's why I have a bit of optimism with future PC versions.
 
The problem may be that: "EA signed 5 years exclusive deal with Microsoft."

Dunno what this means exactly, but it might be anything, from games to DLCs or stuff added to games.

But knowing MS, they will allow PC users sooner to get access to Xbox content games than Sony.

;)
 
I am lowering down my expectations when the patch is out as per usual. Although I really need those faces in the DLC.. I hope some of Swansea's city player face update because I am on top of premier league 3rd season. so not cool if not having many decent faces. :JAY: Oh and Le Ceglie and De Silvestri too hopefully.
 
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Fitiello said:
let's not confuse DATA PACK 2 with PATCH 1.02...this pic is about the DATA PACK...and of course it cannot fix gameplay
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("Konami has confirmed details for its upcoming Data Pack 2 for Pro Evolution Soccer 2014. The free pack will include updated team rosters, 11 vs. 11 mode, and additional Competition Mode features.

Data Pack 2 will bring all team rosters up to date, with team changes to reflect all player transfers. Over 800 new faces will also be part of the pack, upgrading the appearance of players such as Manchester United's Da Silva twins, Boca Juniors' Riquelme, Real Madrid's Isco, and England's Jack Wilshere.

In response to feedback from the PES community, 11 vs. 11 mode will also be implemented as part of Data Pack 2. Online competitions and master league online competitions will be added to the game's Competition Mode. A Team Play lobby system will also be incorporated.

Fans can also expect changes to the chat format, and gameplay tweaks, which Konami did not specify.

The Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 Data Pack 2 will be available to download "later this month".)

Data packs can include gameplay tweaks as previous PES ones have in the past.
 
Davea said:
("Konami has confirmed details for its upcoming Data Pack 2 for Pro Evolution Soccer 2014. The free pack will include updated team rosters, 11 vs. 11 mode, and additional Competition Mode features.

Data Pack 2 will bring all team rosters up to date, with team changes to reflect all player transfers. Over 800 new faces will also be part of the pack, upgrading the appearance of players such as Manchester United's Da Silva twins, Boca Juniors' Riquelme, Real Madrid's Isco, and England's Jack Wilshere.

In response to feedback from the PES community, 11 vs. 11 mode will also be implemented as part of Data Pack 2. Online competitions and master league online competitions will be added to the game's Competition Mode. A Team Play lobby system will also be incorporated.

Fans can also expect changes to the chat format, and gameplay tweaks, which Konami did not specify.

The Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 Data Pack 2 will be available to download "later this month".)

Data packs can include gameplay tweaks as previous PES ones have in the past.
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I wonder about that as well. Previously they made no mention at all about gameplay in data pack logs.
 
Davea said:
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Data packs can include gameplay tweaks as previous PES ones have in the past.
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Dumbfounded.
Let me explain directly.
Data pack is dt50_00x.cpk which is supposed to be in following directory;
C:/ProgramData(hidden folder)/KONAMI/Pro Evolution Soccer 2014/download/
Official patch(v1.01, v1.02, v1.03...) is the executable(pes2014.exe).
Which do you think can include gameplay tweaks?
 
I'm just going on what the info says. As for dumbfounded

" There has been a lot of feedback from you guys, the PES community and it will show in the next data pack. It also updates the online section of the game, with the long awaited addition of the 11 Vs 11 mode, enhancements to the chat elements, and gameplay tweaks. A new ‘Team Play’ lobby system has been incorporated, as have online competitions and Master League Online competitions to the game’s Competition Mode."

If that's the case why is every forum stating the pack includes tweaks to gameplay? As per Konami's statement?
 
Guys I found something really interesting :)yesterday while i played with manual controls I tried to learn the chip shot in the free training. during my learning process I feel the chip animation wasn`t right, it looks like player is trying to make a L1+triangle through ball. I was pissed off becouse in manual controls you can`t use finesse shot properly either. then i decided to set shooting controls to basic, and guess what.. the most beautiful animation of chip shot in any football game :CONFUSE: finesse shot also perform correctly. WHY KONAMI make PES 2014 to be played with basic controls and import manual controls in the game? I can`t understand. the game is very different when you play with basic shooting. I really hope that patch will fix these issues and we can enjoy the pottential of this game. The game is like secret treasure to me.. :)
 
Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 10 min
Hi all. So unfortunately, as I suggested yesterday about caution, it does seem the message of DP2 release was an error :(. Not coming today

Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 9 min
The message was a preparation which we wanted to test, and it got pushed out. We have been aiming for 15th, but waiting on platform holders

Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 7 min
I'll do my best to update you all later. For now, I'm sorry for any confusion, we'll put a msg up on Xbox/PSN to apologise for our error.

Pro Evolution Soccer ‏@officialpes 18 h
@JohnOSulli The DLC will be released in November, but we don´t know the date yet. We´ll keep you updated.

Yeah, right. Treating customers like that...
 
info0 said:
Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 10 min
Hi all. So unfortunately, as I suggested yesterday about caution, it does seem the message of DP2 release was an error :(. Not coming today

Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 9 min
The message was a preparation which we wanted to test, and it got pushed out. We have been aiming for 15th, but waiting on platform holders

Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 7 min
I'll do my best to update you all later. For now, I'm sorry for any confusion, we'll put a msg up on Xbox/PSN to apologise for our error.

Pro Evolution Soccer ‏@officialpes 18 h
@JohnOSulli The DLC will be released in November, but we don´t know the date yet. We´ll keep you updated.

Yeah, right. Treating customers like that...
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Bullshit Konami!!!!
 
Davea said:
As for dumbfounded

If that's the case why is every forum stating the pack includes tweaks to gameplay? As per Konami's statement?
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It's not you, it's not the info you posted, it's peoples' penchant around here to belittle and insult rather than engage in friendly conversation.
 
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angus said:
It's not you, it's not the info you posted, it's peoples' penchant around here to belittle and insult rather than engage in friendly conversation.
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Thanks Angus

Some people need to learn manners not feel the need to act big behind a keyboard. Though i feel that is difficult to comprehend for the aforementioned.

Anyway thanks Angus and totally agree with you
 
...I haven´t bought the game yet...I´m going for couple of drinks with my brother tonite...I will be playing real footbal match tomorrow...Happy days...
 
Davea said:
Thanks Angus

Some people need to learn manners not feel the need to act big behind a keyboard. Though i feel that is difficult to comprehend for the aforementioned.

Anyway thanks Angus and totally agree with you
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And I agree with You both , big thumbs up for that Guys, all the venom spitting makes me wonder if its all worthwhile here.
 
The reason people associate data packs with executable updates is because they usually release one at the same time (which you often actually need to download before downloading the data pack), but only vaguely mention changes to modes, almost never mention concrete gameplay changes.
 
is dumbfounded such a bad word?

[Longman Dictionary]
Dumbfounded ; extremely surprised.

sorry anyway if you were hurted by that.
 
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marthchyld said:
Dumbfounded.
Let me explain directly.
Data pack is dt50_00x.cpk which is supposed to be in following directory;
C:/ProgramData(hidden folder)/KONAMI/Pro Evolution Soccer 2014/download/
Official patch(v1.01, v1.02, v1.03...) is the executable(pes2014.exe).
Which do you think can include gameplay tweaks?
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Actually, both data packs and executables could include gameplay tweaks. Theoretically, executable could be programmed in such fashion to load certain code snippets (AI routines, parameters, etc.) dynamically from external .cpk files.

Whether pes2014.exe is actually programmed like that or not, that's another question. Doesn't seem to be, but theoretically it's doable. Remember all those AI scripts found in dt18.cpk that, for the moment, do nothing when changed? Maybe Konami has plans to use them sometime later and will make the necessary changes in executable to enable them?
 
zlac said:
Actually, both data packs and executables could include gameplay tweaks. Theoretically, executable could be programmed in such fashion to load certain code snippets (AI routines, parameters, etc.) dynamically from external .cpk files.

Whether pes2014.exe is actually programmed like that or not, that's another question. Doesn't seem to be, but theoretically it's doable. Remember all those AI scripts found in dt18.cpk that, for the moment, do nothing when changed? Maybe Konami has plans to use them sometime later and will make the necessary changes in executable to enable them?
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It's possible and early indications suggested that was the case this year unlike previous years (several gameplay variables were found on files), but after investigation it turns out everything is still hardcoded, suggesting that the files inside the cpk's were left there from developing stages of the game. Typical.
 
Adam came out and presented news:

Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 21m
For now it seems we are really close, but I refrain from a date until I know 100%. To confirm, the DLC & Patch combined will be 1.3GB(!).



Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 16m
I also feel, because we are close, it's time to detail some of the patch fixes I have been asked about.I'll do so through community managers


Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 19m
To those upset,the delay won't be long, so no need to be overly concerned. But allow to me convey the msg best I see it. Thanks again to all.

But the sad part...

Neto ‏@Neto0sk8 15m
@Adam_Bhatti The update also comes out for pc? They say that for pc has no date confirmed ...

Is this. It has been confirmed for X360/PS3 only. They apologized to PS3/X360 users too, but nothing about PC users.

I hope the situation won't be like with PC Demo :/.
 
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