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PC PES 2014 discussion thread

Watching Manu City vs Bayern München and Hart getting goals from Robben now I know who did the motion capturing for the goalkeepers... :FAIL:
 
NikLaw said:
Watching Manu City vs Bayern München and Hart getting goals from Robben now I know who did the motion capturing for the goalkeepers... :FAIL:
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haha nice, bad really bad for city, they seem all over the place tonigh really, no balance no nothing, i think it's down to city rather than bayern being too strong, man city didn't show up tonight.
btw enjoying the game more on 1 bar passing, and professional, the cpu is more balanced here, no cheating super human defending, i'm winning games 2-1 or 1-0 having 55-60 % possession with barca, its too bad there is no individualism in this game, messi isn't messi, xavi is like any other midfielder, victor valdes stupid from close range, balls come through his hands and in from the near post shot....
 
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Well, that's just like Valdes then.

And Xavi and Messi do feel like Xavi and Messi to me. Their body balance is immense and curved through lo0ng balls are Xavi forte.

I see individuality, people don't see. I wonder why ;P.
 
Wonder when Konami are actually gonna release the digital PC version of the game which they scheduled for Day 1?

It's been almost two weeks since Sept 19th and still nothing?

Jesus fucking wept, Konami! :RANT:
 
I received the call to attention of a moderator, regarding my complaints about the game
assume this is a free forum, and I can say what I think
konami laughs in our face, an unfinished product, bland and unfinished.

example
I bought a car last incredible model, missing a seat, the electrical system malfunctioned. as buyer's my right to complain
while all mad here, konami on vacation for 2 months
 
ramgamer said:
haha nice, bad really bad for city, they seem all over the place tonigh really, no balance no nothing, i think it's down to city rather than bayern being too strong, man city didn't show up tonight.
btw enjoying the game more on 1 bar passing, and professional, the cpu is more balanced here, no cheating super human defending, i'm winning games 2-1 or 1-0 having 55-60 % possession with barca, its too bad there is no individualism in this game, messi isn't messi, xavi is like any other midfielder, victor valdes stupid from close range, balls come through his hands and in from the near post shot....
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The 2 goals from Robben and Ribbery could haven been saved by a better keeper.

By the way, I have a digital version of the game, purchased at gamesload. Konami just fucked up the steam release. I preordered a steam key and as it wasn´t available bought the gamesload version. So I have a steam key to sell.
 
spektarm said:
Wonder when Konami are actually gonna release the digital PC version of the game which they scheduled for Day 1?

It's been almost two weeks since Sept 19th and still nothing?

Jesus fucking wept, Konami! :RANT:
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Was officially released a week ago on Gamesplanet, already topping the sales. $40 for limited time only.
LINK

About demo, there was no official words on it since get-go except for couple of tweets from Adam.

NikLaw said:
By the way, I have a digital version of the game, purchased at gamesload. Konami just fucked up the steam release. I preordered a steam key and as it wasn´t available bought the gamesload version. So I have a steam key to sell.
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That don't make sense at all. There's no way you can buy the Steam key nor pre-ordered it since it is not available on Steam in the first place. That's how digital distribution work.

I suspect it must be an activation key from retail version.

Seems like Konami at the state of every single fault is attributed to them, even though it's not theirs at all. Hope they will bounce back with patch 1.02.
 
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info0 said:
Well, that's just like Valdes then.

And Xavi and Messi do feel like Xavi and Messi to me. Their body balance is immense and curved through lo0ng balls are Xavi forte.

I see individuality, people don't see. I wonder why ;P.
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i insist that messi isn't messi in this game, his dribble is like any other striker in the game,his pace also he always get caught up by a defender(maybe catchup bug can't assume) the stats i believe are just for show and not planted in the gameplay procedure, xavi also.
 
Try playing with some lower tier team, and then come back to Barca. You'll soon notice how massive the difference of their individual is.

It so easy to thread a pass using advanced through ball with Xavi compared to Jirarwat for example. Also much easier to fend off marker using right stick with Messi compared to Vietto.
 
YouTube - Messi Amazing Skill vs USA

Yup. Because Messi IS NOT A FUCKING SPRINTER. Take note. ;)

YouTube - Messi amazing skill against Athletic Bilbao __HD

When will people realize that... Messi ball control = Messi. His sprinting speed is not that great (despite still being considered FAST).

There is a problem with CR7 and Bale more than Messi.

As Bale feels like tank here and has problem getting into full pelt sprint at top speed in short time (he should be able to beat defenders with relative ease - not the case here).

In CR7 case I tend to use skill moves more often to beat defenders, which is tad annoying :(.
 
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There is a problem with CR7 and Bale more than Messi.

As Bale feels like tank here and has problem getting into full pelt sprint at top speed in short time (he should be able to beat defenders with relative ease - not the case here).

In CR7 case I tend to use skill moves more often to beat defenders, which is tad annoying :(.
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meaning there is minimum individualism in this game, if not messi, then other top class strikers aren't who they should be.it's also a problem of note being able to make feints and tricks in this game, like they showed us in demos..
 
really enjoying the game on professional, scored a fantastic freekick with neymar, hit the cross bar and came down behind the line and then went out, great realism i can say there, that never happens in fifa.
this game is really hit and miss when it comes to gameplay, sometimes it's freakin great and sometimes u get a goal scoring bug, or ping pong midfield u lose the other feeling, maybe that's the trademark of PES, i hope they minimize those negative things(catch up bug, ping pong midfield,fouls not given!!!,SHOOTING OTHER THAN BASIC IS A FRUSTRATION)THE GAME WILL BE GREATEST ITERATION OF THE SPORT AFTER THAT.
 
It is possible to do feints and tricks. However, to do it (with or without auto-feint) you need to learn from scratch how this system works.

You need to a) body position well, b) use of BOTH sticks.

Push Right Diagonally and then left upwards or downwards. You will see some magic. If running upwards push Right stick -> -> and left stick in direction of run. Voila. Beauty :D.

Takes a while to learn, but is worth it.

Without auto-feint I believe maresmas posted tutorial how to do skill moves. It is complicated (and should be really - I hate FIFA for that).

There is no problem with individualism, but more with stats balancing.

I am quite sure this will get fixed with time.
 
info0 said:
It is possible to do feints and tricks.
There is no problem with individualism, but more with stats balancing.

I am quite sure this will get fixed with time.
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i believe the problem concerns also the responsiveness of the button delay, it has some delay that makes some button push not execute, this should be fixed quickly..i agree feints are a tad hard to use since it never worked with me, i'll try to practice.(playing with xbox controller wired, direct input).
 
I would not call it stats balance. There is no even minimun difference if we talk about players speed ,drible speed , explosive power, ball controll and dibbling. i spent few hours at treining to test this issue. I think there is difference only with shooting accurancy and body balance. I havent tried pass acc yet - difficult to test. There is only Placebo effect .If you make two same player with very different stats and running animations in edit mode then you will see what i am talking about.
I know Konami wanted to balance gameplay but it's not right way. Trick Konami use takes away Pro evo soul......individuality
 
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i suppose as i mentioned the game is playable in ML on professional, basic settings, 1 bar passing assist, and custom camera set to 2 angle, 10 height.
 
DerleiPT said:
I would not call it stats balance. There is no even minimun difference if we talk about players speed ,drible speed , explosive power, ball controll and dibbling. i spent few hours at treining to test this issue. I think there is difference only with shooting accurancy and body balance. I havent tried pass acc yet - difficult to test. There is only Placebo effect .If you make two same player with very different stats and running animations in edit mode then you will see what i am talking about.
I know Konami wanted to balance gameplay but it's not right way. Trick Konami use takes away Pro evo soul......individuality
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But you didn't notice that training negates a lot of stats, that tactics are messed up and all that?

Training is particularly broken in this game imho.

It says nothing. You can FEEL the difference in players more in Competition games. Take Atletico Mineiro vs Toluca or something. Play as Atletico Mineiro first then as Toluca.

You will notice how shocking subtle difference in stats can make in this game.

Controling Ronaldinho alone is letting you feel how GODLY he is. He is way different to ALL other players.


You will miss such player in Toluca.

Play as Swansea vs lets say Valencia. Do it the other way too.

There is Britton in Swansea (guy with pass complete ratio on same level as Xavi 2 seasons ago). You have Michu who is a tank in air.

In Valencia you have different players and it feels. Subtle differences again, but YOU feel them easily after a while.

KONAMI did great job, but I will say it once more, this needs balancing and people from PES Stats Database to do their work.

Huge potential is here. It's up to US and KONAMI to unleash it :P.

Once more: "Exhibition games, training mode DO NOT do justice to this game. Football Life is flawed at the moment due to bugs and glitches which need to be fixed to make this game mode worthwhile. Competition Mode is where it's best at the moment. Start any tournament (Champs League, Copa Libertadores, Europe League, AFC Championship, etc.) Play whole system. You will see how HEART, MOTIVATION and STATS start to play ROLE in this game. Otherwise you miss out a lot of FUN factor. Plus for me, every game, even if I repeat it, feels different. Same match can have different outcome. Amazing :D."

There. I will postpone from glorifying the game (despite knowing its shortcomings too), until 1.02. patch with DLC arrives. Then I will probably delve into Football Life for few seasons. Should give good merit then to what needs more fixing. Right now, we all know the game is pretty much unfinished.
 
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But you didn't notice that training negates a lot of stats, that tactics are messed up and all that?

Training is particularly broken in this game imho.

It says nothing. You can FEEL the difference in players more in Competition games. Take Atletico Mineiro vs Toluca or something.

There. I will postpone from glorifying the game (despite knowing its shortcomings too), until 1.02. patch with DLC arrives. Then I will probably delve into Football Life for few seasons. Should give good merit then to what needs more fixing. Right now, we all know the game is pretty much unfinished.
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so after playing many matches, what are ur pros and cons in this?
 
Written this on another forum I frequent to, where most of people are bunch of FIFA hardcore fans (playing VP religiously xD):

did you notice that catch-up thing work both ways? AI does it and so can user. I catch up to AI faster than they can out run me.

Means my theory about fast defenders is in place. If something works for both parties that means there is something unrelated to gameplay involved. Probably stats. I saw they make HUGE difference this year.

EDIT: about things I love and dislike


- spot on ball physics. No game had done this better. Ball as separate object = huge plus in my book x)
- physicality of the game. Serious here. Fouls NEVER were so brutally captured in any footy game to date. They look nasty if you mistime them . Ability to push away other player is also nice bonus for gameplay mechanics
- Shoots feel meaty, but need right timing to pull off.
- Graphically it's stunning. The looks of real players is just JAW dropping. O_O. Stadiums look superb!
- Atmosphere on stadiums is vastly improved compared to previous years. Huge bonus. Finally can hear away fans booing players or cheering their team .
- Animations - no longer a problem. Must say they look more natural than FIFA 13 and 14 (based on demo). So natural looking too.
- Competitions - licenses for Champs League, Europa League, Copa Libertadores, AFC Championship etc. made playable in separate mode. This is what keeps me at the game at current moment. Not football life. So far, every team played different style. Had to adapt to the way AI plays. The atmosphere on South America matches is absolutely amazing. (no wonder KONAMI went for licenses there!).

Cons:

- Goalkeepers - still need a lot of work. I know that before, they motion captured guys working in production, not real goalkeepers. Therefore a lot of animations are unfit for this game. What is needed is complete rework of GK animations (bare in mind, some of them, were already mocapped by Casillas for example ). They let in silly goals, because of animations alone (game would chose correct animations to given situation - but due to bad mo-cap the game chooses completely wrong one :/).

- no rain, no snow = no turf changes, no physic changes. That is omission which I cannot go silent about! What the fuck is this shit! Many teams play in winter/rain conditions! Yet none of that is in Pro Evo 2014. Excuse was: we are not happy with how ball/players behave on dump turf and hardware limitation of PS3/X360. HELLO?! You left powerful platform without it . PC.

- AI and Player awareness on the whole is broken. I have seen enough of this. You can basically run from Kick off at AI defenders and.. They will do absolutely NOTHING. Same goes for attacking movement when sometimes, players won't run into space or notice the ball is passed to them and... Ball goes out of play or to opponent. AI also loves to go out with the ball to the sideline for no apparent reason.

- Difficulties are broken. Far too easy. Even Superstar doesn't pose real problems. Need a fix.

- Master League is completely outdated in it's format. Needs complete overhaul (promised to come next year - we shall see).

- Online is broken due to completely unreliable KONAMI servers....

- lack of faces for A LOT of players and omission of stadiums from BBVA which were there in PES 2013!

That's it for now. However, I must say this once more. Even in it's current state, when it clicks, it's phenomenal. Best footy game ever.

I won't rate it yet, until DLC and 1.02. patch come out though...
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I didn't concentrate on out of game things like Options in Settings.exe file. This needs revamp too. I would love to have options to adjust vsync, refresh rate, frame skipping, anti-aliasing, more advanced graphical options to set, etc.

I will add more stuff later on, but I won't write any more about 1.01. game. Let KONAMI fix the most staggering issues first. Then we shall see what needs more job to get done.
 
info0 said:
Written this on another forum I frequent to,
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i agree with u on the cons, pretty much the same feeling i have, when the game clicks it is really the best iteration of football.
i might add, the game is broken on top player, too much cpu cheating, superhuman defending...superstar maybe less.
 
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Training is not broken mate , i have no idea why you think its broken .Training is rough and there is no stamina ,form or heart and you can see how things are. I agree, Heart and players form makes difference but stats doesn't make any difference for me.
 
Pick Barcelona for training and check what tactic they use. It's 442 I believe which is NOT what is set in Game Plan.

There is also NO impact in training on stats. Stats do make difference in Exhibition/Competition and FL modes though (haven't played Football Life yet, but generated players are WAY worse than real players :D).

Whatever the case, we need 1.02. patch badly.
 
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