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PC PES 2014 discussion thread

I've just tested PES 2014 V1.06
new kits (classic MILAN, UNITED, BENFICA etc...+SPAIN and GERMANY)
about refrees = still the same..
about long range shoots= still the same (impossible scoring)
about curve shoots = still the same, almost impossible to score
 
klashman69 said:
Shooting seems better, seems to be more power, hit the bar from 30 yards twice, it seems hard but possible.
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I just scored a half volley screamer from 35 yards (30-35 meters) bang in off the bar. It was with my BAL player who has shot power of 79 (orange form arrow so it's ~83ish then). That was definitely NOT possible in any of the other patches.

So far the 1.06 patch looks better and better. Less of the annoying stuff and lots of fun stuff going on at the pitch! I'm not entirely sure but the game speed also seem a bit slower without making the players as sluggish.


PS. The ref is poor as usual, but honestly they've always been bad in PES.
 
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ZeroTheHero said:
PS. The ref is poor as usual, but honestly they've always been bad in PES.
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But this time they are almost non existing. I play this game since September and only see two! penaltys. I played hundred of games. Beside that almost every second tackle by the AI would be a foul because they just run into your players non stop. They push you, they kick you in the legs, you stumble and loose the ball and you will never get the foul call. Maybe one out a million. Refs are incredible bad in this game.
 
ZeroTheHero said:
I always make my own patches, but I assume everyone isn't as persistent as myself. Most people won't bother with an unfinished product when the other game is plug and play, even if PES is slightly better in the gameplay department.

You seem to assume that "quality" was the important word that may offend people while I meant it as NO quality patches (because there are usually several) which you rightfully highlighted. I guess a negative person will always serach for the most negative way of understanding the world around him?

The patches section is nearly empty:
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=269
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I would say dont worry about the other "most people" then, if people dont have the staying power and move to fifa etc then so be it.

Well so far I have a quality patch, but it is one of which I cannot mention here :) Also how full was that area 3 months into pes2013 or previous? (genuine question not flippant, as Im not familiar prior to pes2014).

I guess a negative person will always search for the most negative way of understanding the world around him?
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I dont know mate, but you were the first to say about quality ("quantity" you mean I guess?) so me thinks I wasn't first on the negative button, maybe the world gives back what one gives out? :)) Judging it all from your own standards wont magic anything new, but I do see your point, surely 3 months and still patch updates means its slow burning.

As regards the new patch, I had micro stutter on broadcast cam but that seems to have gone now with 1.06, 1.01/1.04 I got some "jumps" on panning so thats a bonus, it only ever happened in broadcast cam, other cams were always fine which puzzled me.

Comments on gameplay I dont see much different from 1.04 but will still keep a look out, certainly plays better since 1.04 though. Changelog seems to mainly feature online issues.

Beside that almost every second tackle by the AI would be a foul because they just run into your players non stop. They push you, they kick you in the legs, you stumble and loose the ball and you will never get the foul call. Maybe one out a million. Refs are incredible bad in this game.
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I wonder if they had to ease off the refs due to new engine and collisions? Maybe they had it as previous but due to new anims and tackles etc it was difficult to balance.

I have to say I have seen a decent enough balance of standard fouls in a game, yellow cards are just enough (I play 30 min halves & fair few Ai v Ai test too) and have had a few penalties. Man, fifa13 was a penalty shirt tug fest, and then this year refs completely went to sleep :) So all in all and looking a real games I think its balanced as it can be given the collisions. Otherwise every other tackle WOULD be a cards and you could never play a game :)
 
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Robbery said:
But this time they are almost non existing. I play this game since September and only see two! penaltys. I played hundred of games. Beside that almost every second tackle by the AI would be a foul because they just run into your players non stop. They push you, they kick you in the legs, you stumble and loose the ball and you will never get the foul call. Maybe one out a million. Refs are incredible bad in this game.
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I guess either konami was responding to feedback that the foul calls were too much on pes 2013 or they jst didn't have tym to implement fouls well on this physics engine
 
Jamezinho said:
Well, PES is one of those series that has given me more great gaming memories than any other, so I will always follow it, even if it's from a distance.

As for playing PES...2014 has too many game-breaking issues so it gets no more time from me.
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But it still plays some spectacular buildup realistic football when it all works
 
easypeazy said:
But it still plays some spectacular buildup realistic football when it all works
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Yes, just to report that just played with 1.06 patch and I am happy to report that game is really enjoyable at +1 speed.

Not sure how much better than with 1.04, but I feel the game smoother.

Guys, dribbling is the key for PES 2014, this is the part most of the older fans are frustrated, dribbling is needed to play good, with previous PES games it was not a must.

Really easy, any right stick angle is where you want to dribble then any left stick angle, is where you want to go with the ball.

I believe that PES team needs to speed up animations on default speed, fix some critical gameplay issues, for me the goalkeepers are the most critical fix, although sometimes goalkeepers react.

I have never seen so much PES negativity on forums like this year, but Konami deserved it, they just are really bad at PR and they simply did not finish the game on time.

I am certain that most of the people that are angry/frustrated will not buy PES 2015 unless the game is really good,so Konami is kind of obligated to release a much better soccer game.
 
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I wonder if they had to ease off the refs due to new engine and collisions? Maybe they had it as previous but due to new anims and tackles etc it was difficult to balance.

I have to say I have seen a decent enough balance of standard fouls in a game, yellow cards are just enough (I play 30 min halves & fair few Ai v Ai test too) and have had a few penalties. Man, fifa13 was a penalty shirt tug fest, and then this year refs completely went to sleep :) So all in all and looking a real games I think its balanced as it can be given the collisions. Otherwise every other tackle WOULD be a cards and you could never play a game :)
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Yes, i think it has something to do with the new physic engine and the new collision system. I understand that it is not easy to find a good balance but this time for me it doesn't feel right at all. Fouls are such an important part of this sport and i don't think it is build in very well in PES2014. I think it was fantastic in PES2013 you could even draw fouls and used it as a tactical option. This is completely missing in this years version.

They had a lot of work to do with this game and this new engine.
 
I agree, I just think they overworked themselves with a mountain to climb to move to new engine in the time schedule and things had to be "balanced for now".

I would imagine that (or hope) this type of thing would be better addressed in the coming time frame up to 2015. Goalkeepers can always do with a tweak, the collisions and ref combination balance.

I hope for the love of god next year they update the GUI ... if there was anything to make people turn away from face value its that :) Where I should run a mile from such things being used to Fifa GUI I actually warm to konamis shoddyness in that dept LOL :)
 
What did i just read on WENB? Saying the game doesn't work with Windows 8? I'm playing the game on my Win 8.1 x64 with no issue at all. Fact is any game that runs on Windows 7 should have no trouble to run on Windows 8 since they both using the same kernel, doesn't matter what the gamecard tell you.

Anybody who encounters any issue, it could be from myriad of problem. Anti-virus is the biggest culprit, since most modern AV nowadays has built-in sandbox feature. Think of it as a separate container, it places the .exe on separate, controlled environment. So the program cannot escape from the sandbox, therefore cannot harm your computer in any way. However most of the time you'll encounter tons of issue. Like crashing, unable to use your input (gamepad, keyboard), failure to connect to the internet and many other. To avoid this, just place your PES2014.exe on the whitelist since it's not a malicious program to begin with.

But hey, it easy to blame the developer right? Maybe people should just stick to console gaming, save them lots of hassle.
 
I agree, you always get the "PC is a hassle" crowed mainly filling up forums with pretty fundamental problems that can be fixed that slate the games ending with "console is better than PC" to finish off. You do get a situation where self awareness kicks in to say "maybe you should just use a console mate".

Apparently this wont run on XP .. but its smooth as silk ... direct x 9.0b is the clue. I think true next gen should support 11 + shaders only though :)
 
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If you have decent hardware, XP won't utilize it properly so using XP is not a good idea.

I'm not sure if I understood your other PC rant properly, but PC is always better than console but console might be more convenient if you're not somewhat PC-savvy. Once modding is involved, PC has always and will always be easier and better. Even after most tools now support consoles as well, PC is more convenient in that regard. Nothing prevents you from hooking the computer up to your 60" flat screen, so that's not an argument in favor of consoles either.

I actually thought that there was universal agreement over this but maybe there was some sarcasm in your post that went completely over my head...


Merry x-mas!
 
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biggest issue with this game is attacking in the final third. When you press the shoot button, player takes like 3 touches before taking the shot, even on on-one-ones. Its damn frustrating, I miss PES 6 because the response was instant.
 
ZeroTheHero said:
If you have decent hardware, XP won't utilize it properly so using XP is not a good idea.

I'm not sure if I understood your other PC rant properly, but PC is always better than console but console might be more convenient if you're not somewhat PC-savvy. Once modding is involved, PC has always and will always be easier and better. Even after most tools now support consoles as well, PC is more convenient in that regard. Nothing prevents you from hooking the computer up to your 60" flat screen, so that's not an argument in favor of consoles either.

I actually thought that there was universal agreement over this but maybe there was some sarcasm in your post that went completely over my head...


Merry x-mas!
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it was running on xp for me smoothly for months just had to ignore an error message on every start up...heck on win8 now it has hell of a famedrops in cutscenes ..or its the latest patches dunno
 
OMG ... just saw Manchester City second goal vs Liverpool.
If that happened in PES ... it would result in a broken dvd ! :)
 
In fact that whole City vs Pool match typified an online game in both PES and FIFA.

Fast break, counter-attack, exploiting space with pace and through ball and not forgetting appalling defensive display by both sides. Also shit refereeing decisions.
 
We always whinge at anything that doesn't perfectly fit our tastes. Whether it's food, clothes, work, homes, weather, seats, games, you name it. It's all the same.

We're never 100% happy. And you can never 100% please everyone :)
 
After many hours spent online on this game, i think that when U play 0 bars and shoots on manual its realy good game. Unpredictible good pes with no lags. Assisted is awful - fifa like, predicitble it makes u to choose certain options during gameplay, longbals, lobs all the time, to fast, to many shoots. Manual is the way to play. When i play ranking matches it finds players who also play on manual its great.
 
I bought a new PC with very high specs for gaming
GPU = Asus GTX780 OC 3G
CPU = i7 3.50 Ghz
RAM = 8G
unfortunately PES 2014 has many stutterings and micro freezing (almost 1 second sometimes)..does anyone has got the same problem with GTX780?

P.S with my former PC ( with a gtx560 and an old quadcore 2.40 Ghz )the games run smooth ...WTF?!??!

Is it really possible that a gtx560 and an old CPU are better for PES2014?

Please anyone help me out
 
ZeroTheHero said:
If you have decent hardware, XP won't utilize it properly so using XP is not a good idea.
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Agree I was talking about my system and experience and not about latest rigs, clearly you use latest O/S.

I'm not sure if I understood your other PC rant properly,
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No you didn't, becuase it wasn't a rant just a minor point :)

but PC is always better than console but console might be more convenient if you're not somewhat PC-savvy. Once modding is involved, PC has always and will always be easier and better. Even after most tools now support consoles as well, PC is more convenient in that regard. Nothing prevents you from hooking the computer up to your 60" flat screen, so that's not an argument in favor of consoles either.

I actually thought that there was universal agreement over this but maybe there was some sarcasm in your post that went completely over my head...
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I think it did go over your head, becuase I agree on all you posted, but its when you do get non savvy people that should use a console that slam PC users or a PC game itself in forums (real rants), that's when it gets annoying. They just dont get the message sometimes and it can make forum or blog readers get put off when in actual fact its more than likely 9/10 times user error.
 
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elloco said:
No its not possible!!

Checck your nvidia settings, vsync on ?
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I did it...I tried adaptive V-SYNC, I tried without V-SYNC...but nothing...I still have little freezing (sometimes 1 second too)...the game run at 60fps and replays are smooth...but gameplay has got this problem...I remind that CRYSIS 3 runs smooth on ultra setting so I don't think it is a GPU issue..any ideas?
 
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