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No you're not.


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Placebo said:
And what about AI teams signing a 34 year old 74 rated player for £4m and someone else signing a 22 year old 76 rated player for £800k? Values so messed up it's unreal!
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Whoa pull up you handbrake there bro.

Go play 2013 and disprove half of what you say.
Yes there are flaws (iniesta , xavi and puyol joining madrid -insert facepalm here) but the cpu actively seeks out young starlets and if you happen to go try and sign them once they are established you have a hefty fee to pay. Moreso when they become regulars and are happy at the club. When they are unsettled you can approach them but the club may stop you and not allow him.

Personally hate that when you are in D2 and sign the starlets the big bad dogs lure him away and you end up with a Suares situation, he also starts having poor form etc

Also the retirees are sold off or sent to the free agents pool where you can pickup a bargain albeit only for a season or 2.

Where did PES2013 get all this negitivity from I ask myself?!
 
My biggest issue with Career mode when i played it in FIFA was -2,453,656,734,575

BUGS! So many of them, lack of anything changing, I'd play my friends CM and see in Season 5, one team was brought by a billionaire, brought star players but where still struggling every single season. The same teams where still at the top, teams had brought 2-3 players but the core the team hand not changed at all.

There have also been major issue where in 5 years down the line, young generated players just don't improve enough so you have a pensioner world where all the best players are still Messi, Crisitano etc.. at 34/35 years old and only a handful of players reach 87/88.

Career mode is 'Better' in its presentation, its More true to life with official cups and league structure. Injuries in training etc.. The issue is the programming is crap.

PES 2010 was just madness in the transfer market, PES 2011 was mad, but toned so things changed over seasons, PES 2012/13 where not good enough in this regard, not enough things changed for me. I want to see some teams get better, do well, buy better players and become a force in 2-3 seasons, so means struggle and have to sell their players.

For PES 2014 master league to be successful I think it need to just offer enough, a combination of PES 2010/11 and 12's best bits so we create our own storylines.
 
Jamezinho said:
Interesting.

Hopefully it's Champions League and Europa League integration. I need a good league mode these days as I can't be bothered with the half-fanatsy, half-realistic Master League any more. It's a load of nonsense.
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It's what I need as well. Offline league mode with 15 min games wth friends should do for me
 
zeemeister said:
Go play 2013 and disprove half of what you say.
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Don't quite understand what you're saying?

The comments I've made are based on my experience playing PES2013's ML. I look at the transfer history and often see lower rated old players going to big clubs for more money than higher rated young players.

Also in my ML in the first window Man City signed Messi and Cronaldo and sold them both on within 12 months and they both moved two times more in two years, rediculous.
 
_anderson said:
There's not much individuality, but there's "teamuality". Players on worst teams are much less agile and accelerate slower, but then all players feel the same (it feels worse than 4 and 5 star teams).
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can't really say i noticed the difference to be honest.
it always feels much easier to select and win with a much weaker team in FIFA then it does in PES cause teams are very equal so the player is the most important aspect and not the stats.
 
Can someone who really liked PES2013 please tell me if the new game is like an evolution from this or a whole new direction like from PES2010 to 2011.
I am in the minority of people who think that 2013 is a fantastic game. To me its the the closest PES(or any football game) has ever come to simulating football at a technical level. I have read that 2014 was in development for a few years and it seems that some of the ideas they had for reinventing their game have made their way into the series starting with 2011. Some of the gameplay mechanics I have read about in PR releases, the dribbling especially, sound like what they have been trying to do with the current engine but not been able to fully implement due to its limitations.
Am I right in thinking(and hoping) that 2014 builds on everything PES has been doing right the past few years. Or is it, as some have opined, a completely new game?
 
Placebo said:
Don't quite understand what you're saying?

The comments I've made are based on my experience playing PES2013's ML. I look at the transfer history and often see lower rated old players going to big clubs for more money than higher rated young players.

Also in my ML in the first window Man City signed Messi and Cronaldo and sold them both on within 12 months and they both moved two times more in two years, rediculous.
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sorry I thought you said you have not played it since PES 6

yes the transfer system is fooked but its not all bad.
 
Placebo said:
Don't quite understand what you're saying?

The comments I've made are based on my experience playing PES2013's ML. I look at the transfer history and often see lower rated old players going to big clubs for more money than higher rated young players.

Also in my ML in the first window Man City signed Messi and Cronaldo and sold them both on within 12 months and they both moved two times more in two years, rediculous.
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Setting the transfer activity to LOW greatly helped against those awful transfers. Normal is already unbalanced
 
A Real Gentleman
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Well after all... really like PES13 and IMO PES 2014, is a big, BIG step foward.... I really like the game, and since I played 14 I just can't go back to 13.... my only problem with it is the player awerness, it's that bad! :RANT:
We'll have to wait till tuesday to find if the newer code has solved some of his biggest flaws! :PIG:
 
A Real Gentleman said:
Can someone who really liked PES2013 please tell me if the new game is like an evolution from this or a whole new direction like from PES2010 to 2011.
I am in the minority of people who think that 2013 is a fantastic game. To me its the the closest PES(or any football game) has ever come to simulating football at a technical level. I have read that 2014 was in development for a few years and it seems that some of the ideas they had for reinventing their game have made their way into the series starting with 2011. Some of the gameplay mechanics I have read about in PR releases, the dribbling especially, sound like what they have been trying to do with the current engine but not been able to fully implement due to its limitations.
Am I right in thinking(and hoping) that 2014 builds on everything PES has been doing right the past few years. Or is it, as some have opined, a completely new game?
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got over 100 hours in PES2013. really enjoyed,while it was nothing mind blowing. PES2014 is mind blowing, its like a new IP. It's that good and when the next demo comes out it will be even better.
 
Placebo said:
Don't quite understand what you're saying?

The comments I've made are based on my experience playing PES2013's ML. I look at the transfer history and often see lower rated old players going to big clubs for more money than higher rated young players.
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There's also hidden attribute for every player, that affects ML transfer prices - players' market value (1-8 scale). It isn't visible in game, but OF editing tools for PC can change those values. It could very well be dynamic in nature, rising as players become worldwide popular during campaign.

Lower rated old geezers, who used to be somewhat popular, could still be more expensive than yet unestablished youngsters because of their hidden initial market values. Sadly, when you look in OF, those initial values are so underrated for so many youngsters and generally not-so-famous players.

I do remember that in PES 2010 (when new ML format was introduced and when many aspects of the ML campaign have been much more visible than now - including player popularity, ranging from local nobody to worldwide known superstar) players' popularity directly affected both players' wage demands and market value. Sometimes I cursed myself for being too successful with my team, especially when I saw wage requests rising from 2M to nearly 10M per season.
 
zeemeister said:
Really? Watched again under 2 mins doesnt like the menu says its from the 90s nor the pass assist settings prefers fifas.
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It seems a bit strange that he doesn't like this game, when he praised PES 2010/11/12. He even gave them a 9/10.

And we know this year's gameplay is much, much better than previous years.

I don't know, it's like he now shows his "true colors".
 
Anyone know how to do driven passes on this?

Was there such a thing on pes13?

Also how do you cancel a team mate run when incorrectly selected to bomb on?
 
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