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PES 2014 Discussion Thread

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BlueChampion said:
All my efforts to get the game by release date have failed. I'm now feeling like Jimmy. Was so looking forward to it. Was so confident that I'd get my copy ahead of release date. All have failed. Now my only hope is digital download from Playstation Network store. Does anyone know: (a) at what time the UK PSN will have the full game PES 2014 for us to download? (b) what could be the size of the download - how many GBs?

Response from anyone would be highly appreciated.
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Waiting for that too. Hoping it will be available in about 16 hours from now (midnight UK time). My guess is it will be about 5-6GBs.
 
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dannyfc2 said:
A few people have mentioned this, but I find the exact opposite. I get an abundance of space to run into, even around the box. If I pick up the ball with an advanced full back, its very likely that I'm allowed to make a bee-line toward goal and get a shot away unopposed.

Fallen out with dribbling again..sharp turns exist in real life despite the inertia and weight involved. The ball is either glued to the feet or well out in front while sprinting, no inbetween. I just want to be able to nudge it half a metre into space, or to open my feet a bit. But you don't seem to be able to do that. It's all dragbacks and looking to retain possession.
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Because the default dribble speed is now the old R2 slow dribble (still not sure if this was a good idea as I thought the contextual foot placement dribbling in 2013 was very good) I think its a matter of varying these 3 basics:


-Medium speed dribble - Hold R1
-Close control dribble - default speed/releasing R1 to slow down and make tighter turns
-Create space - tap R1 once and maybe change direction

-Sprint dribble - tap R1 twice


I'm concentrating on getting used to the combination of the first 3, the 4th is only needed if you have a big space to run into.
 
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Loving the game, haven't brought myself to face learning the advanced shooting and through ball mechanics just yet, just managed to get to grips with the new engine now after finally having more match time to do so.

Only 2 niggles i'm facing are the cursor switching seems a little unresponsive and judging by the reaction of some of the members i'm not the only one. Also the Cameras, despite now giving you more customizable options, still don't give you much a panoramic view of the pitch.

Besides them 2 issues, the game is intense, haven't found myself getting frustrated as any mistakes or errors seem to be on my own merit. Also, that feeling when you finally score after struggling :).
 
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Ipswich69 said:
Waiting for that too. Hoping it will be available in about 16 hours from now (midnight UK time). My guess is it will be about 5-6GBs.
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Thank you very much for the response. If it's 12 midnight UK, it should be in about 8 hours no? And I thought the game could be 10-15 GB. If it's 5-6 GB it's great as that means less waiting time.
 
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MafiaMurderBag said:
Loving the game, haven't brought myself to face learning the advanced shooting and through ball mechanics just yet, just managed to get to grips with the new engine now after finally having more match time to do so.

Only 2 niggles i'm facing are the cursor switching seems a little unresponsive and judging by the reaction of some of the members i'm not the only one. Also the Cameras, despite now giving you more customizable options, still don't give you much a panoramic view of the pitch.

Besides them 2 issues, the game is intense, haven't found myself getting frustrated as any mistakes or errors seem to be on my own merit. Also, that feeling when you finally score after struggling :).
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Classic PES feeling:SMUG:
 
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BlueChampion said:
Thank you very much for the response. If it's 12 midnight UK, it should be in about 8 hours no? And I thought the game could be 10-15 GB. If it's 5-6 GB it's great as that means less waiting time.
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Sorry, 8 hours yes.
 
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How do I change ATT/DEF level during the game? LB/L1 + DPAD up/down isnt working for me.
 
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Luckily i know a guy at a big games store, gave me great trade in today on some old games and got it early for £7 quid!
 
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So I just played an online lobby match (which was incredibly laggy) but I'm pretty sure the game set the same support settings for both players.

Is this a feature or am I imagining things? The guy didn't seem to know how to play very well and that might be because I use manual passing. Also through balls were broken because of the lag?, every time I played one the recipient also played another through ball when he touched the ball.
 
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Jimmy G-Force said:
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear............ :(

So, for those that are aware, I usually pick up my copy of the new PES the day before from a local computer games shop I've visited ever since I was a kid. The same two brothers have run this franchise for years, and we have an agreement that involves 40 pounds in used notes and a black bag under-the-counter type transaction.

Bearing in mind tonight is our weekly PES Lads Night, I made my way down to the shop this afternoon, only to find that after 28 years, the brothers have ended their franchise and moved on.... :CONFUSE:

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!! :(

The new chap in the shop claims he doesn't have it yet (not quite sure if he was telling the truth), but took my number and said if he gets copies dropped off before 6pm he will give me a call...

I then went to another games shop in the town, but they wouldn't budge either on giving me one early.

Not only did I cancel our weekly 7-a-side football match tonight(as it was pissing down this morning- but it's nice now, and the fact I selfishly wanted more hours with PES )but now I also don't and probably won't have the new PES for the lads tonight either.....

I feel like such a let-down, especially as I could have pre-ordered it from Shopto and had it by now.....

Gutted !!! :(
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Jimmy get Rambo 1st Blood on their Ass. Get in there and tell them it's black dildo time if they won't give it up, something is getting given up and without Vaseline.:OOOH:
 
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Is there anyway I can check the opponent team status before the match in master league? I'd like to know the condition of the opponent players (form, motivation etc.)
 
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pepper63 said:
Jimmy get Rambo 1st Blood on their Ass. Get in there and tell them it's black dildo time if they won't give it up, something is getting given up and without Vaseline.:OOOH:
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I kinda went pretty hardline in the second shop I visited after they refused me it. It was a shop called Grainger Games, and the two lads in there were wearing Pirate Outfits. I ended up calling them a pair of bellends who looked fucking stupid with their daft hats on as I stormed out with my blood boiling........

Jamezinho said:
Sorry to hear that Jimmy. None of the assistants would take a bribe to sell you an early copy?
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The second shop said they had it, but wouldn't/couldn't sell me it because they didn't have a price for it. I offered them £50, they refused and said 'No, we can't, because it might be less than £40 and I'd want change'. I said 'No I won't', they then replied 'look, we can't sell it before it's official release date'. The bellend comments then followed........
 
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Confirmation from WENB that the digital download in PSN will be 7.6 GB. With my internet connection it might take about 8 hours to download.
 
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Jimmy G-Force said:
I kinda went pretty hardline in the second shop I visited after they refused me it. It was a shop called Grainger Games, and the two lads in there were wearing Pirate Outfits. I ended up calling them a pair of bellends who looked fucking stupid with their daft hats on as I stormed out with my blood boiling........



The second shop said they had it, but wouldn't/couldn't sell me it because they didn't have a price for it. I offered them £50, they refused and said 'No, we can't, because it might be less than £40 and I'd want change'. I said 'No I won't', they then replied 'look, we can't sell it before it's official release date'. The bellend comments then followed........
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I admire yout passion, as well as your story-telling skills. :WORSHIP:
 
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if i want to start download of datapack on x360, it says download failed before it even started, anyone knows whats up with that? i want to play online -.-
 
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Konami confirm Patch 1.02 will be released “in the coming weeks” which will add 11 vs 11, improved facial animations and bug fixes. #PES2014
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Here we go again, it's the "guess the fixes" game!
 
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I have a problem with headers in defence and offence. My player doesn't jump. I press pass or shoot but he just stands there and does nothing. Could someone help me?
 
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shorty alien said:
-Medium speed dribble - Hold R1
-Close control dribble - default speed/releasing R1 to slow down and make tighter turns
-Create space - tap R1 once and maybe change direction

-Sprint dribble - tap R1 twice


I'm concentrating on getting used to the combination of the first 3, the 4th is only needed if you have a big space to run into.
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So what do you use R2 for?

For me, you've lost the ability to coax the defender into commiting before whipping it away from them in another direction. Might be different against human opposition, I'm yet to try.

In old PES games you'd constantly vary between default, R2 and sprint. Accelerating, stopping, then going the other way. Or accelerating, hesistating half a second, then motoring on as the opposition hesitates. Taps of R2 when stationary would shift your weight one way. Wiggles of the left stick would enable body feints.

This year there just lacks the dribbling variety, most of it appears to be luck. You cannot improvise in response to the defenders actions, as by then the input is too late.

In fact to me the mechanics very much feel like FIFA 09. I'm not saying it's a poor game, but the passing and focus on physicality of technique is very similar. I wonder if this is a consequence of opting for prettier animations, the transitional jerkiness of the previous generation has gone, but at the expense of the freedom to improvise.

It's a good game. I just don't think it has the depth and variety many people are led to believe. I could be wrong, we'll see within the next couple of weeks.
 
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chrismas said:
I have a problem with headers in defence and offence. My player doesn't jump. I press pass or shoot but he just stands there and does nothing. Could someone help me?
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I've not had issues with defensive headers but with offensive headers you have to let go of square before the ball arrives on your player's nut and then direct the header.
 
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chrismas said:
I have a problem with headers in defence and offence. My player doesn't jump. I press pass or shoot but he just stands there and does nothing. Could someone help me?
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Tap shoot, don't hold. Then it's all about timing. I've been winning most my headers in defence, still getting to grips with attacking ones. I remember people have similar problems with PES 11.
 
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I've decided I'm going to try and blag some old and potentially gullable shop assistant in Tesco after I finish work.....

I.Wont.Give.Up.
 
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What do these combined stats mean?

ball retention
elusiveness
final ball
vision
penetration
work rate
intercepting

Don't have the game yet, can someone please check master league advanced search - ability - to see if they are explained?
 
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pepper63 said:
Does it change anything? I heard the were issues before and update straightens this out. Thanks.
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Tbh not quite sure. At first I felt players were more responsive but now I'm not sure.

Jimmy G-Force said:
I kinda went pretty hardline in the second shop I visited after they refused me it. It was a shop called Grainger Games, and the two lads in there were wearing Pirate Outfits. I ended up calling them a pair of bellends who looked fucking stupid with their daft hats on as I stormed out with my blood boiling........
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:LOL:
 
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dannyfc2 said:
So what do you use R2 for?

For me, you've lost the ability to coax the defender into commiting before whipping it away from them in another direction. Might be different against human opposition, I'm yet to try.

In old PES games you'd constantly vary between default, R2 and sprint. Accelerating, stopping, then going the other way. Or accelerating, hesistating half a second, then motoring on as the opposition hesitates. Taps of R2 when stationary would shift your weight one way. Wiggles of the left stick would enable body feints.

This year there just lacks the dribbling variety, most of it appears to be luck. You cannot improvise in response to the defenders actions, as by then the input is too late.

In fact to me the mechanics very much feel like FIFA 09. I'm not saying it's a poor game, but the passing and focus on physicality of technique is very similar. I wonder if this is a consequence of opting for prettier animations, the transitional jerkiness of the previous generation has gone, but at the expense of the freedom to improvise.

It's a good game. I just don't think it has the depth and variety many people are led to believe. I could be wrong, we'll see within the next couple of weeks.
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R2 is now just for deft dribbling because the default dribble speed is what R2 used to do. I liked it how it was too in 2013 but its own way this method can work at times; you can still get used to it, ish.
 
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I've just spoke to the 'new' guy in my old faithful shop, and he said the copies are on route and they might arrive. He said if they do he will stay back so I can pop down after work at 6pm....:CONFUSE:
 
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Jimmy G-Force said:
I've just spoke to the 'new' guy in my old faithful shop, and he said the copies are on route and they might arrive. He said if they do he will stay back so I can pop down after work at 6pm....:CONFUSE:
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Find out the route they take and do a complete heist. Then drive the truck down the shop where the pair of pirate bellends at.

:PIRATE:
 
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