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PES 2014 Discussion Thread

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zefira said:
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more detail in this link
http://www.konami.jp/we/2014/ps3/





you can play as a goal keeper in BAL now.


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And no word about online mode ... Maybe this 11 vs 11 will be mirage and this year :COAT:
 
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dannyfc2 said:
How is individuality btw? I've not actually heard an awful lot regarding it. And new the stats.

I think its one aspect thats regressed since 2011, so hopefully we see more focus on it this year. And I don't mean specific mo-cappin of Ribery and co., I mean distinctions between standard player types.

I want that feel of the mercurcial luxury playmaker back. I hope Vision is implemented into this Advanced Through Ball system.
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Indeed !

Something Fifa sorely lacks as every player and hence every team feel exactly the same.
 
Jamezinho said:
For fuck's sake Bhatti, drop the hacker comments. So disrespectful. They are modders and have been immeasurably improving your game for years.
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Agree completely.

profit90 said:
Indeed !

Something Fifa sorely lacks as every player and hence every team feel exactly the same.
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Every player does not feel the same, PES' player individuality is pretty much limited to an exclusive band of players anyways, I never play with the big teams and have never noticed player individuality to the kinds of levels people have claimed over the years, nor team individuality in ML to any great degree, the one thing for me that PES/ML has over Fifa significantly is the tactical side in how the AI will constantly be looking to change their formations/tactics on a dynamic level, if they can do this on current gen it bodes well for what we'll see on next gen PES.
 
Placebo said:
Agree completely.



Every player does not feel the same, PES' player individuality is pretty much limited to an exclusive band of players anyways, I never play with the big teams and have never noticed player individuality to the kinds of levels people have claimed over the years, nor team individuality in ML to any great degree, the one thing for me that PES/ML has over Fifa significantly is the tactical side in how the AI will constantly be looking to change their formations/tactics on a dynamic level, if they can do this on current gen it bodes well for what we'll see on next gen PES.
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just like in real life, i follow my country second division and to be honest most players are alike. You don't really expect to find many pirlo or iniesta in lower leagues.

I gotta say i always feel i am playing the same game over and over in fifa.
 
foreverbanned said:
I gotta say i always feel i am playing the same game over and over in fifa.
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So do I until I somehow scrape the cash together to sign a good player, then they start to stand out, same with PES :)

I have no interest in playing with some big team just to play with a top 50 world class player, sure maybe I'm missing out but I'm not going to be some kind of glory hunter just for instant gratification, I'll only ever play as Sheffield Wednesday in a football game, that's my team, for better or worse! The only exception being national team, I'll also play as Sweden or England, if the achievement list wasn't fake then ML will have national team management like Fifa this year?
 
One more week and I should have my copy of the full game (hosting a ComeRound pes party next weekend).

The wait for this has been unbearable. The worst part is... I know that reading and watching the posts here will make it even worse so I should stay away... but I just can't.
 
Placebo said:
So do I until I somehow scrape the cash together to sign a good player, then they start to stand out, same with PES :)

I have no interest in playing with some big team just to play with a top 50 world class player, sure maybe I'm missing out but I'm not going to be some kind of glory hunter just for instant gratification, I'll only ever play as Sheffield Wednesday in a football game, that's my team, for better or worse! The only exception being national team, I'll also play as Sweden or England, if the achievement list wasn't fake then ML will have national team management like Fifa this year?
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pes doesn't have any second division so it's pretty impossible to determine whether they do player individuality better than fifa at that level.

tactic-wise, pes 2011 was a monster. countless time i won on line games vs barca or real madrid noob using small teams just by choosing the right tactics, you could even choose tactics for each 10 minutes of the game or so. Don't know why they took that possibility away with pes 2012/2013.
 
I hope they will also allow to play the matches when managing a national team not just be the coach
 
Placebo said:
Every player does not feel the same, PES' player individuality is pretty much limited to an exclusive band of players anyways, I never play with the big teams and have never noticed player individuality to the kinds of levels people have claimed over the years, nor team individuality in ML to any great degree, the one thing for me that PES/ML has over Fifa significantly is the tactical side in how the AI will constantly be looking to change their formations/tactics on a dynamic level, if they can do this on current gen it bodes well for what we'll see on next gen PES.
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I do not think that every player in FIFA feels the same. however i do feel the only thing that differs them is pace. Skill and passing ability isn't as prominant as in PES. e.g David Silva, Pirlo
 
Radiation said:
One more week and I should have my copy of the full game (hosting a ComeRound pes party next weekend).

The wait for this has been unbearable. The worst part is... I know that reading and watching the posts here will make it even worse so I should stay away... but I just can't.
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I'm knocking on every door possible in Widness. I'LL FIND YOU.
 
dannyfc2 said:
How is individuality btw? I've not actually heard an awful lot regarding it. And new the stats.

I think its one aspect thats regressed since 2011, so hopefully we see more focus on it this year. And I don't mean specific mo-cappin of Ribery and co., I mean distinctions between standard player types.

I want that feel of the mercurcial luxury playmaker back. I hope Vision is implemented into this Advanced Through Ball system.
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The likes of Pirlo, Deco, Mata, Silva, Ozil, Cazorla, Xavi, D'alessandro, Totti and co. do feel different in PES 2012-2013. Whenever I use those types of players I often build the teams around them because their stats stand out. First touch, dribble accuracy, dribble speed, agility, acceleration, teamwork positioning, passing, player cards etc. I know I can feel them.

Individuality is one of the constants in PES last or current gen (along with movement physics and tactical depth) despite all the criticisms the games get. In fact I would actually say individuality has increased every year as the games become more complex; I can understand other flaws but for me individuality has never been one of PES' weaknesses even from PES 2012-2013, but each to their own I guess.

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PES2013s induiviuaity is by far The best the series has known.
Especially on 0 assist passing and with player ID
With Players like Iniesta, Modric, gerrard compared to wingers like Alan, Lamela and james Rodriguez. You feel the difference in the players and how well they perform in their positions.
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Yup. I've used tons of players in MLO either permanent of temporary loans, and I always study the stats, and then feel the differences on the pitch.
 
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I both agree and disagree with Placebo.
I agre ewith him that there is player individuality in FIFA. I played a (very enjoyable) carreer with Ligue 2 club Guingamp and i had a Lyon player on loan who was spectacularly good and turend out best player of the Ligue. EA Sports were spot on, the same player is now a first team player: Yassine Benzia.

However the player individuality (used to be ?) is bigger in PES and it goes further than the best players . I remember all the litle gems i discovered in PES (my all-time favourite was Andres D'Allessandro and this in PES4 or 5 when he still played with River Plate, afterwards he was also in the Wolfsburg team). I do however, have the feeling that there is less player individuality in current gen PES (i have to admit that the only game i played a lot is PES2011, so i might be wrong).

But saying that there is no player individuality in FIFA is blatant nonsense. Now you can also unearth unknown litle gems in FIFA. Sometimes i have the impression that some people over here condemn FIFA without having played the game for the last 3 or 4 years (i used to be like that to, Placebo once called me sycophantic, i had never heard of that word, had to search it in a dictionary. At the time i was quite upset about that, but he was more or less right).
 
So, it's possible to play online coop against the AI? Really? Is there confirmation about that?

Because that's the mode I'm more interested to play. Get a friend and try to plat together, it has always been a lot more satisfying than competing vs unknown people.
 
Been a long time since I bothered with pes, this year they have dome what was needed by bringing in a brand new engine so I applaud that.

I need to ask like every year can we move to new clubs during a ml campaign? and if not why the hell is there the option to manage a national side.
 
drekkard said:
So, it's possible to play online coop against the AI? Really? Is there confirmation about that?

Because that's the mode I'm more interested to play. Get a friend and try to plat together, it has always been a lot more satisfying than competing vs unknown people.
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It's not confirmed, he guesses it.
It really would be a DREAM!
There only stands "online available", nothing about what it means.
It also could mean 1Player/Team.
Asked Adam on twitter but i have no reply. :)
 
drekkard said:
So, it's possible to play online coop against the AI? Really? Is there confirmation about that?

Because that's the mode I'm more interested to play. Get a friend and try to plat together, it has always been a lot more satisfying than competing vs unknown people.
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Is to good to be true :( If that was true, Konami will say it long time before because is big deal.
 
Sabac Red said:
Been a long time since I bothered with pes, this year they have dome what was needed by bringing in a brand new engine so I applaud that.

I need to ask like every year can we move to new clubs during a ml campaign? and if not why the hell is there the option to manage a national side.
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It's been stated both in words and pictures time and time again mate. Yes you can move to another club and also manage a national team :)
 
Sabac Red said:
Been a long time since I bothered with pes, this year they have dome what was needed by bringing in a brand new engine so I applaud that.

I need to ask like every year can we move to new clubs during a ml campaign? and if not why the hell is there the option to manage a national side.
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Yes you can. Also to international jobs.
 
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