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PES 2014 Discussion Thread

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Jimi_Zuko said:
do you have any idea when the info will be coming out for ML?
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I think Adam said sometime next week on twitter. Not too sure.

Ameppe said:
Asim's opinion became irrilevant to me the day he said on wenb Pes 2014 was like Pes 2013 plus some new animations. He said that Fox Engine was not visible, at all.

I was already suspicious, looking at the videos it seemed to me like much more than Pes 2013 with new animations.
But the mostly positive impressions over here from people that probably played the same version as he played showed that opinions are opinions.

And Asim's opinion about Pes is extremely different from mine
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Spot on.

Suuuuupertalk said:
I'd put up with it but it would annoy the crap out of me, after all it has nothing to do with engines, console limitations or anything technical. The way they schedule the fixtures in ML is just a combination of piss poor design and sheer laziness. I suspect it was added like that the first time (whichever version of PES that was) and nobody's looked at it since.

Hopefully someone, somewhere at Konami will have finaly picked up on this, but given the total lack of news it doesn't look hopeful that ML has received any TLC at all.
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Don't know about anyone but I still prefer 2010's ML. Not sure it had that same internationals issue though but overall I think it was the best overall experience for me.

Shikashi said:
I think people need to accept that this year is the foundation for the new PES. This is totally apparent for those who have played the poor demo. If Konami get their heads out of their ass when it comes to licensing and being locked out, PES has a bright future. You certainly can't expect to have everything in one game, there's only so much resources and time that the team has and they have done great in re-building PES.

As far as gameplay goes and how realistic it looks, PES is leagues ahead of FIFA. FIFA is simple and fun for the majority of people who buy it, but there's certainly a crowd for sim football games and PES is headed in the right direction. If the issues from the demo are fixed (floaty shooting, players awareness in through balls, some cursor issues and no input lag), then I can say that this PES is above and beyond any PES we've ever played. Or any football game for that matter. It's up to Konami to improve the right things since the E3 build.
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Agreed.

losslesscompression said:
Asim? To me, he's gone. His opinion is down the ladder after all the crap on his twitter. Some was way OTT, but according to him it's all okay in the name of banter.

Also i don't like the fact he still think he represent the fans.
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Same feelings.
 
araul said:
I am so offended right now!!! Its an affront to all heyerosexual people! Burn at the stake you heathen!!! lol
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Jokes aside though apologies If I offended you. I didnt think there would be any gays in the forum so I didnt think twice about my comment. I was obviously wrong. Peace bro.
 
araul said:
I think these days the only way to play Pro Evo is in a PC. Konami cant do console games to save their life.
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If you're referring to modding, you could argue every game is the same due to open nature of PC the OS. Everything else is the same. In fact Konami has history of horrendous PC port in the past.
 
thats what i meant. in the PC you could apply proper kits proper balls tweak gameplay and add whatever commentary u want. On Xbox you are stuck with wats out of the box. maybe some low res kits if youre lucky cos u cant import image files into the kit editor. fkn sux
 
araul said:
Jokes aside though apologies If I offended you. I didnt think there would be any gays in the forum so I didnt think twice about my comment. I was obviously wrong. Peace bro.
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Sorry Lami, but he's essentially calling people gay for not taking too kindly to homophobic comments. This needs to be addressed, quite frankly. I'm not gay but I certainly don't like to read shit like this, moreso when he's saying that people that can only be offended by this nonsense are gay.

You can delete this if you see fit, but this whole exchange has been garbage.
 
kouroux said:
I am on topic so please somebody answer me lol
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Sorry.

It's a bit like the penalty system if you think of it. You press the shoot button, the longer you hold the more powerful the shot is, then quickly pick where in the goal you aim. If you hold L2 down it's a low shot.

It's interesting but I find manual more appealing to me.
 
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Shikashi said:
Sorry Lami, but he's essentially calling people gay for not taking too kindly to homophobic comments. This needs to be addressed, quite frankly. I'm not gay but I certainly don't like to read shit like this, moreso when he's saying that people that can only be offended by this nonsense are gay.

You can delete this if you see fit, but this whole exchange has been garbage.
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It's been addressed don't worry.
 
Lami said:
Sorry.

It's a bit like the penalty system if you think of it. You press the shoot button, the longer you hold the more powerful the shot is, then quickly pick where in the goal you aim. If you hold L2 down it's a low shot.

It's interesting but I find manual more appealing to me.
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Thank you Lami, it should be promising that people are given more options of shooting yet I've only seen normal or negative reviews about it.
 
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Advanced shooting looks too difficult to miss the target. when the on screen indicator comes up (ugh) it only stretches as far as the posts/bar.

Agree on the Asim talk too, holier than thou attitude. feels the need to be the hero or the pariah, has been pretty disrespectful and completely needless condescending comments. Don't understand where it has come from personally
 
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robbieryan said:
Advanced shooting looks too difficult to miss the target. when the on screen indicator comes up (ugh) it only stretches as far as the posts/bar.

Agree on the Asim talk too, holier than thou attitude. feels the need to be the hero or the pariah, has been pretty disrespectful and completely needless condescending comments. Don't understand where it has come from personally
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I only truly trust the words of evoweb members because I know their views are more than not similar to mine when it comes to football videogames (FIFA included). Lami's review, in that sense, really reassured me as many other knowledgeable posters have with the PS3 demo.
 
wiesl said:
You have to be really good at manual shooting. I did several statistics for several leagues I played in and one thing stood for sure: the percentage of goals per shot (either shot on target or all shots) was significantly higher for assisted than manual shooting. Only very experienced players with more than 700 MLO-Games on manual shooting reached up to the percentage of assisted players (but not doing better than them).


Especially one factor contributed to that: with shooting assistance you will get way more shoots on goal that on manual. paired with known weaknesses of goalkeepers you will reach more goals. And of course..red form arrow will influence assisted massively, unassisted minorly.
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I'm comparing it to assisted vs. manual passing.
 
kouroux said:
I already watched this mate ;) but I was talking about the advanced shooting thing. In theory it is great but people aren't "wowed" by it.
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Oh, ok shot ;)

Advanced shooting is a weird concept because it's easier, not more advanced or more difficult. maybe it's just broken in this early demo

When i first heard about it, i assumed it was like FIFA shooting on semi. Which would be great. But it's way to assisted to be semi and power bar doesnt have much effect either.
 
YoungGun_UK said:
watching this and also having smashed 2013, I can safely say PES 2014 looks and having played the demo plays nothing like it.

Going to be a bit of a learning curve with this one.
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I know, one of the reasons why i am so excited. been so long since we had to relearn a football game and be excited to experience new things!

14 days to go!!!:BOP:
 
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I think the shooting mechanics are botched in the leaked demo, for some reason. Sometimes the player responds to your commands and he shoots the ball with power but low, sometimes he doesn't.

It's really weird, hopefully not like this in the final version.
 
Lami said:
Never had a tatoo before but I'm guessing that should surely hurt :P
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:P my lack of english makes people do tattoos on unusual places.

Talking about the game i tried Training mode, and the feints are a great new stuff, but difficult to do for a classic PES player like me.

Just look at this beauties:

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Deluxe said:
:P my lack of english makes people do tattoos on unusual places.

Talking about the game i tried Training mode, and the feints are a great new stuff, but difficult to do for a classic PES player like me.

Just look at this beauties:

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Football Porn.

Though the "placeholder" behaviour of the CPU defenders is a bit weird. Maybe the difficulty setting in Training is lower tan Superstar.
 
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