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PES 2012 Demo Feedback Thread.

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dmxdex2020

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30 June 2005
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I will get the ball rolling on this one.

Game is amazing Even the demo is the best pes i have played without a doubt, puts pes 11 to shame.

Ref's still need some tweaking here and their. I dont want them to tone down the fouls they call more tone the fouls they should be given. Still some blatant fouls going unnoticed.

The cpu are alot better but i still would like to see them made harder and do alittle more in front of goal.

Please konami just get rid of the propeller kick outside of the box, i dont want to see my player do a silly kick like that, i want too see him crack the ball on the outside of his foot on the volley.

One issue that still annoys me about pes is the lack of advantage indicator. Please konami add this back in for the full game.
 
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dmxdex2020 said:
I will get the ball rolling on this one.

Game is amazing Even the demo is the best pes i have played without a doubt, puts pes 11 to shame.

Ref's still need some tweaking here and their. I dont want them to tone down the fouls they call more tone the fouls they should be given. Still some blatant fouls going unnoticed.

The cpu are alot better but i still would like to see them made harder and do alittle more in front of goal.

Please konami just get rid of the propeller kick outside of the box, i dont want to see my player do a silly kick like that, i want too see him crack the ball on the outside of his foot on the volley.

One issue that still annoys me about pes is the lack of advantage indicator. Please konami add this back in for the full game.
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Just look at ref's arms! :P
 
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Guess il copy what I wrote in my thread

Played quite a few games and I already noticed the major things KONAMI needs to improve.
First of all I have to say im very impressed, this year's pes is really the first PES since a long time that I can really say is "new".
It might be the same PES from before thats just modified but damn does it feel different, its like a whole new game almost.
I could go into details about atmosphere, graphics, animations, AI etc etc but I won't, I will just say that im very happy with what KONAMI did in most of the areas.
Sure some might have an extra idea here or there and sure KONAMI could still add a few details and things but overall the improvement from last year in most of these areas is big and satisfying.
With that being said and hopefully clear ( I am very pleased with the amount of change the game underwent ), I noticed some things that need to be improved in order for the game to really be amazing.
I actually have quite some small things that are only ideas that could be added in order to make the game better but those are not really issues only ideas, so I will focus only on the things that are important and a potential issue that would hurt PES the most if they don't fix it.

So here is my list of these things :

1.Goalkeepers - We know it, KONAMI knows it, they said they are fixing them aswell so I think I don't need to add anything more

2.Speed - More specifically acceleration of players/turning speed etc is all too fast for the rest of the game. For example put the game to +1 Speed and Nani ( who is fairly fast and agile but nothing like Messi! ) will perform superhuman fast turning and accelerations.
It seems like the acceleration/turning speed is most realistic on -1 Speed or just a bit more than that, somewhere between -1 and 0.
The problem with that though is that the ball will then move too slow when passing/shooting/crossing etc..
So KONAMI needs to get the right balance here but I trust and have faith that they will.

3.Shooting needs a bit more work and refining, im sure I don't need too add much here because we have all heard this from testers aswell.

4.Smaller issue compared to the ones before but players have just a bit too much control of the ball, more specifically defenders are known to have low control/technique but here they have amazing control, alltho it must be attributed to player stats a bit aswell, because I see the defenders have 80~ ball control quite often or more even, and that can easily be modified later, so not a big deal afterall.

5.Lob shoots, we need to be able to lob it higher whats the point otherwise?

Thats all, hopefully most of you agree with my analysis and now im going to go play a few more matches.
 
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Speed: i agree with the speed, speed 1 feels perfect when it comes to the ball speed/physics but the fluidity of the agile players is a bit too fast, feels more natural on 0 probably better on -1

Shots: some shots just go random places even when aimed to the exact opposite of where it's heading

Game feels very good otherwise, i really like the demo.. only played a handful of games so i can't really point out everything i noticed that wasn't particularly good
 
played my 1st game of pes 2012
man untited "me" VS. milan "cpu
top player
i won 2 : 1 by luck :D
but this does n't mean that it was easy
indeed cpu raped my team :D with 3 balls in bar and 2 one-on-one
i wont speak about every thing as i think that mates here
covered every single point very well
but i'll speak about 3 point

1-the pace
amazing pace it truly replicates the football pace it's genuine simulation
and all talks about arcady pace are all wrong

2-cpu players skills
cpu do every thing , amazing dribbling with the ball by wrong footing
my players and excellent well-timed change of directions
skillful players perform some amazing feints and skills

3-the AI is that game is wrongly named indeed
it's not an artificial intelligence but i'll call it "HI" human intelligence this the
right name

the most negative point annoying me currently besides keeper animations are the level of details on wide cam
it's inferior to pes 2011 and pes 2010
my graphics card can play crysis 2 ultra settings on 60 fps how can konami provide me with such low level of details
even the game does not include an option to increase the in-game LOD
anyway i'm sure juce will provide the kitserver ASAP with its amazing LOD functionality

last but not least pes 2012 will remain for many years a cut-point the football gaming history on next generation

and there are highlights for my 1st game in pes 2012 demo
me"man united" Vs. cpu A.C. Milan
top-player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Deh-EbQLkFA
 
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i have not played it yet but i have watched a match, i have to say this game is the best in the series, my eyes first have to study the gameplay before i actually feel it with the controller, everything in pes 2012 is designed for a superb game experience, the flow of the gameplay is non stop there are no unnecessary gameplay, what freaks me out is pes 2012 is totally designed for superb gameplay and joy, i am so excited to play my first game soon when i get some time, there are minimal graphic changes and high gameplay programming, master seabass and his team have finished off from what was left out in pes 2011, i mean pes 2012 has matured and is actually a finished product, also this game brings back that classic feel just like we9le, i would like to thank evo web once again for making our voice heard
 
Well a feedback thread is supposed to point out the negatives and/or what needs improvement. Not sure this is serving the right purpose.

I'll close this now for a while until demos have been hammered extensively.
 
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