Right, downloading the WE demo now. Promised myself I wouldn't do it but the robotic AI in FIFA was driving me nuts and I need something to keep me entertained 'till the full game comes out.
Very, very disappointed in FIFA as the potential is clearly there but that fantastic game engine is wasted by morons who tweak all the settings so it becomes one arcady mess. No doubt they'll sell more copies this way and fair play to them for that, their priority is selling as much copies as possible which no one can blame them for.
Oh well, PES is really good this year so w/e.
It's the classic case of what do you expect from the engine ? If your looking for top level AI and tactical prowess, then you wont find it there. I really dont think it's anywhere near as complex as what Konami use, that's where it falls down for me personally. An engine that is capable of calculating all the individual factors of a players make-up, statistics, form, condition and delivering infinite eventualities is what I find fantastic, for me thats the clever stuff. Fifa has an amazing animation and ball physics engine, and although that's highly impressive, it doesnt impress me personally as much as what Konami's does. But, in saying that,I honestly believe what EA aims to achieve with Fifa, and the end result,is as good as what Konami aims to achieve with PES. They both look to replicate football from differing angles. And they both do it amazingly well in their own right. The problems only arise when both games are judged on equal merit, you cant do that, it's two seperate philosophies. What Konami does well I dont see EA Sports ever matching it, and vice versa.
I personally think you either buy into one or the other. When you start to mix philosophies, thats when the confusion seems to set in. I'm more than aware that on Evo-Web, we have PES only players, Fifa only players, and then those that dabble with both. It's no coincidence that the most content members, are the one's that follow one game or the other exclusively. It really doesnt matter which, as both really are fantastic games in their own right, and I genuinely mean that hand on heart. It's like I have always said, it's whatever you prefer.
Konami have gone and brought us a new breath of enjoyment, it was simply wonderful to see the rebirth of the franchise after the really nasty PES 2010.
I think thats very harsh. I can understand why people felt PES 2010 could look and play ugly, but underneath those messy layers, was the base for what PES 2011 currently is. The Ai, the tactical element, the increased player individuality, and the new ML has all been brought from PES 2010. And anybody that bought into PES 2010 will testify to that. What people are seeing now isnt just 12 months work, this has been a progression of the last 3 years. If you have never played the Master League in PES 2010, which is what PES 2011 will be, then your in for a real big treat.
As for the Winning Eleven demo, I have played it back-to-back with the PES demo for the last week, and I struggle to see any major, noticable differences. It certainly isnt the second coming of Christ.
, however for us normal folk who have the benefit of independent thinking, the game still needs a lot of fixes. My own observations have led me to the same conclusions as henrys hand. 
