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Manchester United Thread

@ Revan, You really need to work on your homemade avatar's, this one looks like a c#$k with two balls and something resembling two t!ts. :D

Well congrats guys, the league is yours now :( *cough wankers cough* :D
 
BIG WIN! Got the much needed 3 points but left it late. Interesting again to see the Fab4™ and it worked quite well for the 2nd time. Ref had a shite game(Like they all do these days)

Berbatov's played well today, holds onto the ball well, only thing he needs to do know is take some shots at goal FFS! Ronaldo had a somewhat off day, had good moments and other not so good. Atleast he's had a blip here rather than Rome eh? Tevez was again instrumental though in turning the game around for us, his energy gives players like Ronaldo/Berba that extra second or 2 because of his hard work and let them work their stuff. great instincive finish aswell.

FERGIE SIGN HIM UP FERGIE FERGIE SIGN HIM UP! :DD
 
How many points would you attribute to Tevez and how many to Ronaldo? Its difficult to compare a starter and a sub but to me most of the time when a game is becoming tough (losing or drawing) its Tevez thats seems to be able to make the difference later in games and less so Ronaldo. Ronaldo seems to do it when the game is going utd's way (a lot of that is down to him aswell ofcourse) but less so when they are in a tough spot.
 
Na Ronaldo's actually been the one helping us in the tough game's this season when we've most needed him. Porto Away, Villa at home, Arsenal Away, Spurs home. He's not going to do it everytime but even when he's not at his best he helps the team, watch the 2nd goal, the reason O'Shea gets the space is as usual Ronaldo gets double marked leaving space for others.
 
How many points would you attribute to Tevez and how many to Ronaldo? Its difficult to compare a starter and a sub but to me most of the time when a game is becoming tough (losing or drawing) its Tevez thats seems to be able to make the difference later in games and less so Ronaldo. Ronaldo seems to do it when the game is going utd's way (a lot of that is down to him aswell ofcourse) but less so when they are in a tough spot.
But one could argue that when Ronaldo is at his best, we're never in a tough spot where we have to fight our way out.
 
Interesting if it's true. It is in the Sun though...


CARLOS TEVEZ can break free from his owners and stay at Manchester United.

That was the sensational message last night, as the row over his future intensified and the European Parliament prepared to get involved.


United are refusing to pay the £26million fee demanded by a consortium led by Kia Joorabchian, who owns Tevez.


And Chris Heaton-Harris, president of the EU’s powerful Sports Intergroup which deals with sporting matters across the continent, insisted there was nothing to stop the Argie striker going his own way.


East Midlands MEP Heaton-Harris is an influential figure in Brussels on sports issues and admitted he has been shocked by the Tevez saga.


He told SunSport: “It is unique and bizarre that an entity, rather than a club, owns a player.


“In employment terms, Carlos Tevez has a contract himself with this company. But if he went to the European Commission and said he wanted out of it, he would get European support.


“It is just an employment contract. You can’t keep a person to a contract that he doesn’t want to continue in.


“Under European law, he has the right to break this contract.”


There is, of course, no evidence that Tevez wants to break from his owners or Joorabchian, who is also his adviser.


They agreed a loan deal with United two years ago. It had the proviso that, if United wanted to keep the player, they would have to pay £26m for him.


United have not exercised that option, so Joorabchian and his consortium say that it is time to look elsewhere.


Sources close to the player insist he does not want to stay at the club and that he is happy for his ‘owners’ to decide what his future should be.


But United boss Alex Ferguson disputed this on Wednesday night, insisting Tevez wanted to remain and the club had made him a new offer.


SunSport revealed on Wednesday how Tevez’s contract with his owners could contravene European labour rules.


We explained how the argument made by Jean Marc Bosman in 1995, which radically changed football’s transfer system, could be applied to Tevez’s situation.


And United themselves have been exploring possible legal loopholes in the third-party ownership clause of Tevez’s contract. Heaton-Harris added: “Bosman was tied to a football club and Tevez is tied to a company. There is very little difference. It is a simple follow-on from Bosman.

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“The football authorities have been amazingly slow to understand the problems that this sort of arrangement causes.


“They could have sent this to the European Commission long ago but chose to sit on their hands and this is what has happened as a result.


“If the FA and UEFA had come to us with this problem in the first place, there would have been none of these contracts and it would have been job done.”


Tevez grabbed an amazing equaliser in the 2-1 victory against Wigan with a clever backheel flick and Wayne Rooney has joined the


fans clamouring for the Argie to be signed up on a permanent deal at Old Trafford.


Rooney said: “Carlos scored a fantastic goal to get us level. He is a world-class player and you always want to see those sorts of player at your club. He is great to play with. He has a lot of energy and has scored some vital goals for us. His work-rate is brilliant and, hopefully, he will sign to stay with us.


“But I don’t know what is happening behind the scenes. It is hard to say what will happen.


“His English isn’t very good but he’s a great lad and it is great to have him in the camp.”


The match-winner at Wigan, Michael Carrick, added his call for Tevez to stay.


He said “We want to keep the squad together as much as we can.


“It is great here and we still haven’t peaked, so it would be nice to keep together.


“Obviously, Carlos is a top player and the fans love him as well. It is not so much the number of goals he scores but the importance of them.


“His goal against Wigan was a classic case of that. He came on, scored and got us back in the game.


“Hopefully, he can score a few more over the next couple of weeks.”


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That makes a bit more sense now. If thats the case, I can imagine Kia disagreeing with Sir Alex's statements so that the deal is stalled. If it's true that Tevez can break free from MSI, its all in Tevez's hand to make it happen. So Kia is probably using the media to convince everyone that Tevez wants to leave even though it's not true.
It would be a huge boost if we we're able to secure the deal for free this way. The huge saving's on transfer funds would allow us to get players in other departments other than strikers.
 
Signing Tevez would make alot of sense, he knows the team, hes a fan favorite, he can change a game. I beleive signing any other another striker would be a bit of a risk. Fergie already said there wont be a spending spree and I think he is right, the team dont really need strengthening anywhere, maybe RB but that can be got away with because of the amount of players that can play there.

Sign Tevez please :)
 
RB's covered aswell IMO with Rafael and players like O'Shea/Brown etc playing their for the next 2 odd seasons. Otherwise are squad is quality all over.
 
Do we really wanna trust the RB position to Rafael?

He's a great wingback for going forward, but he cannot defend to save his life.

We should buy Lahm and that'd do me for the summer.
 
I think we're fine at RB, like YG said between O'shea, Brown and Rafael we've got it covered and dont forget Danny Simpson and Gary Neville will probably still be around next season too.
 
Do we really wanna trust the RB position to Rafael?

He's a great wingback for going forward, but he cannot defend to save his life.

We should buy Lahm and that'd do me for the summer.

He's only 18 and still learning the game. Imagine trying to convince someone that a 18 year old Ronaldo will completely stop taking on players and will become a goal/assist freak. Players change and improve.
 
Totally agree with you there. I can see him being as effective as Evra in the future. Evra isnt big and isnt someone who's gonna get stuck in with flying tackles or whatever but he makes up for that by learning to read the game. I mean, how many times have to seen him make off the line clearances and vital interceptions? It was the same with Gary Neville. We can leave the tackling and aerial battle to the big boys in the center back positions.
Rafael is all we really need in his position. His ability to read the match will come through the amount of games he plays.
 
Big day lads! Hopefully we can wrap up 18 today. Will be tough I reckon. aslong as we don't lose im happy.
 
And won't be there for much longer if his sub and his actions are anything to go by ...

Anyway, congrats to your lot for winning the league again. We've gave it a good shot and it wasn't to be unfortunately for us. Next year ...

:LOL: ;)
 
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