JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread

Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

Fantista mode is a complete joke.
Why doesnt Seabass understand for something like this to work the game would have to be built around it and not just a mode added into the same game model.
It works in indie games like New Star Soccer 3 because its a SWOS like game where you can see the whole pitch from above.
Playing Soocer is about incstinct and seeing stuff from the corner of your eye etc.

This mode is also taking more away from work to the MasterLeague.

This mode being in the Next Gen games is further prove that these games are created from the new WE10JL PS2 game and not the PS3 which is was never going to be the case.
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

if the camera angle was right the new mode would be brilliant

i used to be one player only in a world cup and it was fantastic, so a mode on its own for a single playing is a brilliant addition
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

the picture dosnt work but if that is the case then i cant wait
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

for me it works, but if you have problems go check the pictures on first page ... you will find it there
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

Coopz, instead of clicking the link, right-click on it, click on "copy link location" (or whatever your internet browser says) and then paste it into the address bar. Then it works.
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

ah yeah it works with JBs method

thats the camera i used when playing 1 player in all the other games, sometimes 4 of us took a player each :)
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

well the nets look improved :) and the shooting does like its more powerfull...
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

lol seems the pressure is building up on me and Fernando ;)
But dont worry, btw no new moves/tricks from the vid only that last goal looked nice with the long distance flick/lob over the keeper.
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

bbc.alster said:
absolutely ... i tested the player cam but its really hard to control ... it looks exactly the same in fantasista :(
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.. But what about one of those first few jlWE2007 pics we saw, ie. normal cam mode + that fantasista yellow arrow in front of the player.. surely you can play fantasista in your normal camera view - surely thisll be an awesome addition ;) i love playing fixed mode every now n then.. :)

I gotta feeling that the player cam view will have to have been tweaked for this mode to work with fantasista - hopefully getting rid of the slow down, + making it easer to use.. yes it was hard to use in the last few versions..

in terms of gameplay.. looks like it hasnt changed too much.. only tweaked for improvment id say.. which is awesome!!!;)
Btw, loved the chip shot (which kinda looked harder n flatter than the usual chip) to score a goal at approx. 5:05 of the last video.. also noticed goal scorers opening their mouths (showing emotions) when celebrating.. i saw it atleast once in that final video.. im pretty sure i havnt seen this in pes6..

anyways.. i gotta get this game.. looks sweet ;)
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

I hope they have remove all that stupid tricks from PES6 and WE 10 j -league, like when you are on the side, you re-enter in the area and all the cpu defense just watch you shoot without interfere...i'd like some improved cpu difense, in short.

If it wil be just the same as We10 j league it will be crap
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

aussiepesfan said:
.. But what about one of those first few jlWE2007 pics we saw, ie. normal cam mode + that fantasista yellow arrow in front of the player.. surely you can play fantasista in your normal camera view - surely thisll be an awesome addition ;) i love playing fixed mode every now n then.. :)
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A Few posts down he said about the other camera angle, thats the angle i use in 1 static player in the all the other WE/PES' so im gonna enjoy fantista mode
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

Coopz said:
....so im gonna enjoy fantista mode
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Don't count on it, mate.

Have you ever played fixed-cursor mode? It seems quite nice for a match or two, but soon you start to notice how abismal the AI of your so-called team-mates is.

Most people will typically want to play as a midfielder or forward, but you'll soon find yourself chasing back doing regular defensive duties as your AI (artificially inept) defenders do a fine impression of the Keystone Cops.

And don't expect your team to score more than about 5 goals a season unless you score them all by yourself.

The idea of fantasista mode is a nice one, but the execution will almost certainly make it just another feature which you try, and then dismiss....a bit like manual passing.
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

Yeah winston is right.
Because cpu is not defending and passing well.
You can't get the ball for 20 minutes sometimes.
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

Like i said before a game lik ethi to work welll has to be developed and tested fully not just added onto existing gameplay.
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

brokensail said:
Konami has updated the site..

http://www.konami.jp/we/jwe2007cc/fantasista.html

It's a game about fantasista.
But Japanese so I couldn't understand..

But I understood that They changed the Player Cam for Fantasista, It looks better.
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Those videos look very promising! The ball physics for a pass and shot look better as do the sideways(f.k.a. the monkey move) and running animation. And at some point you run towards goal and one of the backs moves himself to the middle to cover the goal instead of the corner flag.
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

PESV said:
Those videos look very promising! The ball physics for a pass and shot look better as do the sideways(f.k.a. the monkey move) and running animation. And at some point you run towards goal and one of the backs moves himself to the middle to cover the goal instead of the corner flag.
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so 'r you sayi'n that the cpu will defend better? I hope so cause i'm tired as hell of that bullshit defense of the Cpu in PES6- WE10 j league, with all this months of work i hop they have doin' something about
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

HMM ANY NEWS GUYS??
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

im very anxious too fernando

:P
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

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Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

I live in the UK, where can I get this game and at the cheapest price?
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

I heard they don't deliver import games to the UK, anyone know?

Anyways if i order from they will i get on the day it is released?
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

winston said:
Don't count on it, mate.

Have you ever played fixed-cursor mode? It seems quite nice for a match or two, but soon you start to notice how abismal the AI of your so-called team-mates is.

Most people will typically want to play as a midfielder or forward, but you'll soon find yourself chasing back doing regular defensive duties as your AI (artificially inept) defenders do a fine impression of the Keystone Cops.

And don't expect your team to score more than about 5 goals a season unless you score them all by yourself.

The idea of fantasista mode is a nice one, but the execution will almost certainly make it just another feature which you try, and then dismiss....a bit like manual passing.
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I'll echo that.

I have done it alot of times, and the AI quickly becomes a huge obstacle to scoring. They don't perform the obvious passes (you can be completely free, waving your polygon arms, and nothing), they are generally very stupid and ineffective, and I always end up un-fixing my cursor. Only way it would be fun is 11 vs. 11 Where you don't have to rely on AI.
 
Re: JLWE2007CC - News/Discussions Official Thread (Last Update 07/26/07)

I tried to order from play-asia, but they only take credit cards, which i ain't got. You can also pay through paypal, but i don't fuck with paypal!

Does anybody know where else i can order this game for cheap?

Or maybe a store in London where i can buy this game?
 
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