FOOTBALL - IF YOU COULD CHANGE THE RULES?

mattmid

International
15 December 2011
@Buzzy Agree, although I think Wilson at Newcastle might disagree on the favouring attackers with the handball though!

It just seems a total mess at the moment doesn't it. VAR's almost giving ref's a cop out and then when they get told to have another look then 9 times out of 10 they change their mind from the initial decision.
 

Buzzy

Evoweb Jester/Stadboardmaker.
14 December 2006
Cyberspace
Liverpool
@Buzzy Agree, although I think Wilson at Newcastle might disagree on the favouring attackers with the handball though!

It just seems a total mess at the moment doesn't it. VAR's almost giving ref's a cop out and then when they get told to have another look then 9 times out of 10 they change their mind from the initial decision.
Can you imagine if Collina was still a ref, and they asked him to go look at the screen :)) An article referee who everyone respected, because he usually got it right.
 

mattmid

International
15 December 2011
@Buzzy :D I can just imagine.

I must admit re ref's they could be helped so much if they were backed up by the FA. All it would need is a couple of weeks of zero tolerance, bans for diving, cards for any hint of dissent from player's or managers, cards for any pressuring for a decision and so on. That would cut it all out and take some of the pressure on them to make decisions. It might help if player's didn't appeal for everything. They appeal for bloody throw-ins as if it's an LBW appeal.

Actually the bottom line is if player's weren't cheats then bar offside there'd be no need for VAR anyway! I still remember Fowler not scoring that penalty and the time Di Canio caught the ball, thing is those moments are so rare that's why they stand out.
 

Buzzy

Evoweb Jester/Stadboardmaker.
14 December 2006
Cyberspace
Liverpool
@mattmid That's right, certain players i recall had a honest rep, and if refs saw them go down, the ref would know it was a foul, as these players would rather stay on their feet and try to score.

How many times did we used to hear "if he had gone down then, the ref would have given a penalty" but these players bless em, didn't think of going down. But today we have players going down all over the place as soon as contact is made.
 
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mattmid

International
15 December 2011
How many times did we used to hear "if he had gone down then, the ref would have given a penalty" but these players bless em, didn't think of going down. But today we have players going down all over the place as soon as contact is made.

Or contact is instigated by putting their leg into the defender. I think if that is one of those really obvious one's then it should be something like a 5 game ban. It really wouldn't take long to stamp all this nonsense out would it?

As for the screaming after an innocuous touch (or otherwise come to that), absolutely pathetic.

You can just see these players at home can't you? Knock their leg on the coffee table and go down theatrically screaming and asking for a card for the table.
 

Buzzy

Evoweb Jester/Stadboardmaker.
14 December 2006
Cyberspace
Liverpool
Or contact is instigated by putting their leg into the defender. I think if that is one of those really obvious one's then it should be something like a 5 game ban. It really wouldn't take long to stamp all this nonsense out would it?

As for the screaming after an innocuous touch (or otherwise come to that), absolutely pathetic.

You can just see these players at home can't you? Knock their leg on the coffee table and go down theatrically screaming and asking for a card for the table.
:LOL: yes mate, lets all remind ourselves of the king of theatrics....

WastefulSmugAmbushbug-max-1mb.gif For me, he should have been disciplined after the fact. Could you imagine boxers or cage fighters behaving like this? and also for someone with such ball skills, why can't they control a quick ball to the thigh? I bet if you insulted him though off the pitch and got into fisty cuffs she wouldn't go down so easily.
 

mattmid

International
15 December 2011
Could you imagine boxers or cage fighters behaving like this?

I can't imagine an adult acting like that to be fair! :LOL:

At the very least it should be something like a 3 game ban shouldn't it for essentially trying to get an opponent sent off.
 

Fury Football

Conference
10 May 2020
Like a lot of you I've played football on the pitch & on video games & watched on tv for a long time, the only thing I would change is the offside rule.
I would change the offside rule to - as long as the attacking player has one of his feet in line with the defender it will be onside rather than the attacking player who has a cm of a toe forward past the defender which is ruled offside at the moment. Like in hockey, as long as the attacking player has his back foot on the blueline before the puck carrier on his team crosses the blueline then it's still onside it doesn't matter if the player has his chest or the rest of his body across the blueline.
Not sure if this would work in Soccer, I mean Football. What do you guys think?
 

Buzzy

Evoweb Jester/Stadboardmaker.
14 December 2006
Cyberspace
Liverpool
Like a lot of you I've played football on the pitch & on video games & watched on tv for a long time, the only thing I would change is the offside rule.
I would change the offside rule to - as long as the attacking player has one of his feet in line with the defender it will be onside rather than the attacking player who has a cm of a toe forward past the defender which is ruled offside at the moment. Like in hockey, as long as the attacking player has his back foot on the blueline before the puck carrier on his team crosses the blueline then it's still onside it doesn't matter if the player has his chest or the rest of his body across the blueline.
Not sure if this would work in Soccer, I mean Football. What do you guys think?
Yes i agree good point

As i have mentioned to others before, surely the offside rule was intended to stop you sticking players in the area around the goalkeeper waiting for the ball to come to them. (when i was a kid we called it "Goal hanging" :D )
So when people say things like "it gives an unfair advantage to the attacker"that's not really the point of the rule. Also because an experienced defender in good form would handle that little change (as you mentioned).

Work skill and good finishing are still needed to score. In the spirit of the game the current ruling is farce like, when a hand arm or leg, foot can be judged offside.... Unfair advantage meter says 0% :))
 

rojofa

Premiership
15 September 2017
Using feet makes more sense to me than saying "any part of your body that can play the ball" and having the decision being up to how the officials define human anatomy - putting the line at the exact point where a shoulder becomes an arm.

Changing that though does just move the point where the line would be drawn so you'd still get goals ruled out by such small margins but at least it may seem more consistent.

To be honest I'm probably one of the only people who does think offsides should be enforced with as much precision as the technology allows. It's an objective thing that can be measured, like the ball being over the goal line. The ball either goes over the line completely and it's a goal, or it doesn't. You're either offside or you're not in the same way.

If being that close to offside isn't giving you an advantage, then don't be in that position. Leaving it up to the smallest margins where VAR has to get involved is on the attacker for me and they can't have any complaints.
 

FCDallas_Fan

Conference
23 September 2018
A rule I'd like to see changed is regarding the penalty taker. I would like to see whomever is fouled inside the box be the person who has to take the spot kick.
 

Fury Football

Conference
10 May 2020
A rule I'd like to see changed is regarding the penalty taker. I would like to see whomever is fouled inside the box be the person who has to take the spot kick.
That's what I always am thinking too. In hockey the guy who is tripped on a breakaway takes the penalty shot or if defending player covers puck with his hand in the goal crease then offensive player closest to the puck at that time takes the penalty shot.
If Walker is fouled in the penalty area then he should have to take the penalty not Aguero (although Aguero would likely kick it at the keeper anyhow).
There could be a problem however, if Walker is injured then who takes the penalty? If Walker cannot take the penalty then he must be subbed however then you would have teams taking dives in the penalty area in the final minutes of the game flopping like a fish out of water all over the place to not only get a penalty kick but also a free substitution.
 

du0

Quietly brilliant
10 October 2008
Hanoi
United
Stop the clock for anything that isn't the ball in play instead of giving stoppage time
 

FCDallas_Fan

Conference
23 September 2018
That's what I always am thinking too. In hockey the guy who is tripped on a breakaway takes the penalty shot or if defending player covers puck with his hand in the goal crease then offensive player closest to the puck at that time takes the penalty shot.
If Walker is fouled in the penalty area then he should have to take the penalty not Aguero (although Aguero would likely kick it at the keeper anyhow).
There could be a problem however, if Walker is injured then who takes the penalty? If Walker cannot take the penalty then he must be subbed however then you would have teams taking dives in the penalty area in the final minutes of the game flopping like a fish out of water all over the place to not only get a penalty kick but also a free substitution.
That's an interesting thought. Maybe forcing the "next closest player" to the ball to take the kick would eliminate the diving? Since refs go the monitors for most penalty awards anyway, it would be easy to say who the next closest player is.
 

Fury Football

Conference
10 May 2020
Stop the clock for anything that isn't the ball in play instead of giving stoppage time

That's an interesting thought. Maybe forcing the "next closest player" to the ball to take the kick would eliminate the diving? Since refs go the monitors for most penalty awards anyway, it would be easy to say who the next closest player is.
That would probably be the best way. Ref looks at replay to see who is closest to the ball or the play that occured or whatever but then the ref might see 2 guys that are as close then he has to decide on 1 of them lmfao
 
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