Dennis_87
Physics n' Animations Fan
- 27 September 2017
And still they look unrealistic lol.
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New consoles will release around Christmas of 2020.
The new football games are released around late August-September.
So the 21 version for football games will release before the new consoles,meaning that we will probably won't see a next gen version until Fifa-Pes 22.
Thanks for sharing!Interesting ...
"From Motion Matching to Motion Synthesis"
In FIFA 20 they used machine learning to improve the animations.
https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1026472/ML-Tutorial-Day-From-Motion
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This is just research, I'm pretty sure this hasn't made it into the game yet. See the last four slides.Interesting ...
"From Motion Matching to Motion Synthesis"
In FIFA 20 they used machine learning to improve the animations.
https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1026472/ML-Tutorial-Day-From-Motion
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I thought it was fascinating to see - bearing in mind the guy works for EA - that A) they reference a fan-made YouTube comparison video someone made, comparing the animations in FIFA 19 to PES 19, and B) one of the slides references "floaty" feeling animations.This is just research, I'm pretty sure this hasn't made it into the game yet. See the last four slides.
This is not true.
Everyone knows that EA are famous for having a bunch of sports titles ready for launch or days after new consoles launch.
Now quality of these games are nutritiously bad or they lack the last gens content but however they will definitely have a FIFA and a Madden etc ready to go at launch.
if you don’t believe me look at every recent console launch date and compare to first FIFA date almost identical
I thought it was fascinating to see - bearing in mind the guy works for EA - that A) they reference a fan-made YouTube comparison video someone made, comparing the animations in FIFA 19 to PES 19, and B) one of the slides references "floaty" feeling animations.
Seems like they're aware of the issues...
Without sliders I think it's a 7 at best, the pace of it online is an actual joke (yet FUT players on Twitter cry that it's too slow - they don't want FIFA to be a football game, they want it to be an arcade button-smasher and you can't make a sim AND please those guys at the same time).9/10. Best football game since PES 6.
New consoles will release around Christmas of 2020.
The new football games are released around late August-September.
So the 21 version for football games will release before the new consoles,meaning that we will probably won't see a next gen version until Fifa-Pes 22.
Well defending is an odd one in this game right?
Feels like my players are all over the place,and being in broadcast cam makes angles and stuff even harder.
Just got beat by Heidenheim in my Zweite Bundesliga career 4-1
Cheers mate,yeah I've come to terms with it,big difference from previous games,plus I've gone back to Tele broadcast from broadcast cam,helps a lot!I took advice from another forum To disable move assistance and set jockey to manual. It has helped me in defense. I'm having trouble defending as well but this helped. Also don't sprint so much, try to cover gaps instead
Interesting ...
"From Motion Matching to Motion Synthesis"
In FIFA 20 they used machine learning to improve the animations.
https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1026472/ML-Tutorial-Day-From-Motion
View attachment 29490
Maybe you're right and we'll have a next gen Fifa 21,we'll see.If that's the case i hope they won't neglect the pc version like in the past with Fifa 14 and it will be on par also.Guarantee Fifa 21 on next-gen consoles will look insanely better this year. Obviously in the future they'll be improved, but with the power they have to play with this time around is like night and day compared to PS4 and XB1 at release. Even back then those consoles were considered weak.
EA will be working on the usual Fifa 21 game for current-gen, but they'll be making the other ready in time for the November release of the new consoles. They'll be developing Fifa 21 on the next-gen dev kits right now. It's not going to just receive a patch update like Xbox X
Really looking forward to ray-tracing in effect as well as potentially massive new features that will be shown off. Remember, it's games like Fifa that push people to buying new consoles, so they'll be going all out with bells and whistles everywhere.
Also EA have stated last year that in future years there will be big changes coming to career mode..so if you're into that, then it sounds exciting. Next-gen sounds like a fresh start.
I can't wait for E3 and beyond!
Well this is not always true. The Xbox One version of FIFA 14 (based on Ignite) is a very good game for example.Now quality of these games are nutritiously bad or they lack the last gens content
It's not like they neglected it. The Ignite versions of the game came out in November IIRC, while the "old gen" ones based on Impact Engine were around since September.Maybe you're right and we'll have a next gen Fifa 21,we'll see.If that's the case i hope they won't neglect the pc version like in the past with Fifa 14 and it will be on par also.
Well, EA SPORTS/DICE just hired GalaxyMan the Developer of the only tool that makes Modding for FIFA - and all EA SPORTS/DICE Games- possible. So they sure as hell pay attention to influencers and the different communities. They know all about us.
It wouldn't surprise me if, as you say, they change the game based on a few Youtubers feed back to them.
Well if that's the case and Fifa 21 will be released for new consoles,then we should expect an old gen pc version again like it was the case with Fifa 14.Couldn't they just release the game for all three platforms in November-December when the next gen consoles will arrive?It's not like they neglected it. The Ignite versions of the game came out in November IIRC, while the "old gen" ones based on Impact Engine were around since September.
I see the point in releasing Ignite-based games only when "Ignite-capable" consoles sere launched honestly.
Then, I thought we wouldn't even get an Ignite FIFA 15 for PC, but they proved me wrong luckily.
Well if that's the case and Fifa 21 will be released for new consoles,then we should expect an old gen pc version again like it was the case with Fifa 14.Couldn't they just release the game for all three platforms in November-December when the next gen consoles will arrive?
Why it has to be the pc version that has to be released earlier than the others and get an inferior version instead?
It's not like a pc is inferior to the consoles..A great pc is probably even better than these new next gen consoles that gonna release.
So it doesn't make any sense..It's just that they know that pc players are not as many as console players so if they're gonna fuck someone then they choose to fuck the pc players...Anyway...
Maybe you're right and we'll have a next gen Fifa 21,we'll see.If that's the case i hope they won't neglect the pc version like in the past with Fifa 14 and it will be on par also.
I'm more worry though that even if they'll have amazing hardware in their hands to work with and they could make a brilliant realistic game with great animations and physics,realistic weight and agility etc,it won't happen because online remains the number one priority and realism is not welcomed there.It's all about speed and agility and bullshit skill moves.
It's just annoying that you see these Fifa youtubers trashing great players and even icons like Scholes etc just because they're not quick or agile enough and they're not considered to be usable..or meta..man i hate this fucking word..It's all about pass the ball to wingers,run run run,pass it to the edge of the box,score.Or do some shitty skill moves,turning in light speed,score.Things like tactical awareness etc are not cosidered important enough.The important things are if they have 4-5 stars weak foot or 4-5 stars skill moves..
In real life you don't have to be super quick to be a great defender or midfielder.Other things like space awareness or positioning plays a huge part.But in the game and because of how it's built to be played all these don't matter as much as they should but instead it's all about speed and ridiculous agility and reactions etc..
So..they could bring ray tracing and great graphics and other bells and whistles as much as they want with the next gen.
But when it comes to actual gameplay and realism,i'm not very optimistic that we could see a huge difference for the better.
At least for what is considered better for people who want realistic animations,weight,agility,physics,fouls,physicality etc.A more sim version in general.
As long as most of the onliners prefer this run n gun ninja football,this will always be the priority sadly and it won't change just because of next gen.
Do you think that also means next year FIFA modding is dead?
Another update on the way...
https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/530233/fifa-20-title-update-10