bradley1886 said:
FIFA does look better this year but it still seems as though it's trying to replicate pes in order to be successful. Many of the new features are directly taken from pes. This is the main reason I won't bother with it.
So because EA have copied "the best gameplay in the world" you won't buy it? You'd rather it was crap, would you? I think if it was totally different too many people would be complaining about that - and in all honesty, I don't think the 360 version borrows any gameplay mechanics from PES at all. The button assignments, yeah, but then it makes it easier to adapt and that should be considered a good thing - the finesse shot is a type of shot, so what, did PES invent a low-shot? It's been in football for years. The guys who've made FIFA 07 have worked on it for two years, they've watched football matches, put their own football knowledge into it and overall put in a lot of hard work, and it's really paid off. Players are free, the passing system pisses all over PES's passing system (and even the guys who prefer PES have said so), shots can be directed to more than three places...
Sometimes, when something is copied, it can turn out better, you know. Seabass doesn't have the resources to make his gameplay feel like FIFA 07 does. He has the resources to go "right, let's slow the game down for PES6 and remove a league - done! Wow I'd forgotten how easy this was". I think PES was the kind of game that was made by a genius in the time where you could make games on a shoestring budget. Now he's got a bigger team and doesn't really know what to do - people lap the game up so he does a few random tweaks and releases a "new game". If you don't like FIFA 07 then fair enough, but if I get the final version and I find the referee's mistakes get on my tit too much to play it, I won't be getting PES either. It feels like I've been playing the same game for ten years. Why would anyone do that? Even if it was the best game in the world, if you've played it for ten years, how could it hold my interest? Obviously it does with some people but personally I don't understand it. The game is great, but it's not changed, and personally, I'd rather eat my mobile phone than play another game of PES.
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fatlip180 said:
Now that pes6 is coming to xbox360, im looking forward again, however tere is still a huge doubt in my mind because IMO the screens and videos don look like a step up in generation like maybe there was between iss and pro evolution soccer on ps2
If you're hoping PES for the 360 is any different from PES6 on the PS2 (or saying that PES5 on the PS2), it isn't. It's the same game engine as the current-gen versions, only the graphics have changed. This has been mentioned in a thread somewhere before.
I'm not saying FIFA is perfect, but it's different. A lot of people don't like it, which is fair enough, but everyone who's tried it at my house has been blown away by how free the game is. These are people who play football every week, one of them three or four times a week, and when they hit the ball to where they want it to go, their face lights up. The game is immense, it puts you there. Plus, most demo's I've tried I've stopped playing after less than a week. I've played the FIFA 07 demo every day since it was released and I've seen a different game every time, I'm playing it like it's the full game. I love it.
In fairness to those who don't like it, I might be missing something - a few people have said it's even more scripted than PES, which I'm trying VERY hard to understand (as the last thing I want is that), but I just can't see anything that feels scripted. Every match has been different, you can win one game 2-0 and then lose the next 4-0, it's absolutely fantastic. What I love the most though is the
human feel of everything. PES is a field of robots. In FIFA 07, if you beat a keeper, you've scored a goal. PES goes "right, how many shots has he had so far - not enough, so let's make his shot go straight to the keeper".
