Plan M
Banned
- 27 September 2007
- Manchester United
Re: Everton Thread
You guys were robbed yesterday - bad luck lads.
You guys were robbed yesterday - bad luck lads.
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good post that, great result watched it with blue3life few bevvies and enjoyed the game throughly, hibbert is a shocker need to get rid of him in jan or he'll be there for the rest of his career lol eh unc, good times!!!!!
COYB
PS welcome back tiny tim, and what a goal by ossie!
I thought Hibbert was your unsung hero? My mate is a BITTER blue, season ticket holder and he swears Hibbert is way underrated and should be playing for England. Load of shit if you ask me :lol:
He's bitter by his own admission, and not just after derby's either
I don't really know many arrogant reds to be honest. Maybe it's just my friends, but the reds I know are pretty laid back and don't bother going on about Liverpool.
Whereas my mate is ultra-bitter and goes the match with a set of lads who make my mate look like a neutral! I've refused to go out drinking with him when he's with those lads because they're so obsessed with going on about Liverpool and trying to make out Everton are a better team, it's ridiculous and a waste of time.
I think Liverpool fans are more likely to admit Everton are doing well in the league/cup/whatever and praise an Everton player than blues are likely to return the gesture. An example being if Lescott or Johnson play for England, then great. They can both be good players when they play well and I'll cheer them on when they play an International. But my mate won't cheer if Gerrard scores for England, he just sits there quiet and won't say a thing. He'll never say Liverpool played well, never say a particular player is good and Everton players are always better than their Liverpool counterparts.
Going as far as saying Lescott is better than Carragher, Carsley is better than Sissoko and Arteta is better than Gerrard and Alonso. Lescott and Arteta are good players (especially Arteta) but he's quite wrong on those claims I feel. And don't get me started on Carsley. Apparantly because I don't see Carsley every week, I can't see how good he really is :lol:
theres good and bad in every body
I'm talking about his group of friends too, about six of them. All the same, well in fact worse than my mate.
Workmates have been the same, quick to gloat when something happens to Liverpool, but never known Liverpool fans to gloat at Everton.
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It's always been that way. The reason being Liverpool fans are used to winning while Everton aren't. So when Everton lose, it's nothing unusual so why should we laugh at you? Nothing to laugh at, it's typical of you. But we win a lot, so when we lose then it's obviously it's a break from the norm and something that not normally happens, hence the mocking when we lose. :
Which is daft because it gets boring when Everton go on and on and keep trying to crack jokes. We've been used to Everton fans being bitter and waiting for the slightest opportunity for us to slip up. Everton don't mean as much to reds now as they used to. Rafa was right, you are a small club
Can we have him please?
:shock: You could not afford him peter :lol: easy win today didnt break sweat even , still it was expected...
Debry were dire. Stroll in the park.
Yes maybe it is.
This is anecdotal though isn’t it?
I mean first of all your friends are just a few people and your mate and his friends are just a few people. As such they are not representative of Liverpool and Everton fans as a whole are they? Also you must admit that you as a Liverpool fan will have some selective bias in the evaluation of such things, just as I will as an Evertonian- even if it is unknown to us and subconscious.
I must say that my experience is the complete reverse of yours, but I realize my own selective bias maybe a factor and I also realize that the people I know like the people you know are not a true representation and the full picture when it comes to both sets of fans.
Anecodotal. I for instance have never come across what you have spoken of regarding the national team and I do not think Liverpool fans are more likely to admit Everton are doing well, an Evertonian I have experienced the reverse of this from the majority of Liverpool fans that I know. Maybe I would be better talking to you and your friends in this virtual world and maybe you would find that easier also than your mate and his mates down the pub. The point is, both our experiences are the reverse of one another or substantially different and both are anecdotal and not representative of all the fans in the city or the true overall balance and general feeling of the respective fans.
But you have your own selective bias as I have mine so?
I mean I personally think that on current form that Lescott is at least as good as Carragher, even though he has not been better in terms of historically/for a sustained period. I think Sissoko is better than Carsley now and for the future, but I think Carsley a couple of seasons back was as good as Sissoko has been thus far. Arteta is better than Alonso period and is as good as Gerrard but a totally different player.
But what is the point in this as it is off the original subject and we both have our own selective bias.
We all know that people are the same
wherever you go
There's good and bad in everyone
We learn to live, we learn to give each other
What we need to survive
Together alive
Oops sorry they are the Paul Mcartney lyrics to Ebony and Ivory Hehe
True True though mate
Wow all 6 people!!! Maybe medical trials could pass a medicine if it was successful on 6 people….Ooops oh no sorry. They would never do that because it doesn’t represent anything approaching evidence in terms of a control group, because the numbers are anecdotal.
I can go and find 6 Liverpool fans I know that are out and out racists does that mean ergo that all Liverpool fans are racists?
I can also go and find 2 Liverpool fans I know that are Police officers who are up on charges at the moment, does that mean ergo that all Liverpool fans are dodgy Police officers?
That is funny I am pishing myself. Trust me LOTS of Liverpool fans gloat and give Everton fans tons of shit, I guarantee every Blue here can confirm this has happened to them. Maybe you don’t see it because A) your particular friends don’t do that or B) because you wouldn’t be on the end of it as a Liverpool supporter or C) Maybe you have enormous red tinted spectacles on and you see the world with a red vision.
I guarantee it is one of more of the above.
The fact of the matter is bad Liverpool fans tend to be arrogant given your greater level of success, whereas bad Evertonians are bitter because of us having had less success.
But your categorization of fans is lame, one sided and ludicrous. Would you say the same thing about Muslims and Christians or Black people and white people etc.
You start off with a naïve and one sided point and you have built yourself up throughout the mail so that you have reached your crescendo here, which is why my opinion of you has completely changed as I have read and then commented upon what you have had to say as you reached the end of your mail.
The final point of your mail is a huge insult to all Evertonians and this as you know full well is an Everton thread. But you knew this full well and you knew you were being a cheeky wind up merchant.
You are utterly deluded, your points are anecodotal, you have selective and subconscious bias that you do not understand, you are moaning and pushing a wholly unrepresentative picture and finally you have glowing red massive red tinted specs on for your insult at the end.
Well done you have just become exactly what you have been trying to condemn, namely one of the shite type of fans.
Like I said it tends to be arrogant reds and bitter blues.
You have just showed that you are a very arrogant red by making that insult and your one sided though make me think that actually you are probably a very arrogant red with your friends a lot of the time and as such just as bad as the very friends that you complain about.
Now do us a favour and fuck off out the thread will you- there’s a good chap.
I don't want to speak to the worst type of fans...neither an arrogant red or bitter blue