medhatithi
Conference
- 6 April 2014
Fantastic
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Major upgrades completed! Please report any issues you spot in here
eFootball PES 2021 Discussion Thread (CONSOLES)
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gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
Mentioned in the retro topic, went back to 2012. Its much much much harder to create shooting chances and to score from them even with the likes of Ronaldo. And its not because keepers are that great but because shooting is effected by so many aspects most of the shots are scuffed, going over, going wide...and not to mention you have to create those shooting chances which is against more difficult, you think twice who you want to shoot with and which foot to use. And even then the keeper can make a save and thats a wow what the hell PES moment. New PES is vell balanced but it's coding in terms of gameplay comes off as a game created in the 80's, 90's very plain and rigid, same thing happens all the time. (Not to mention AI has way more attacking patterns and skilled players dribble at you succesfully, its all unpredictable). Thus new PES is boring and annoying as this is the year 2020 and an 9 years old game beats it by miles in gameplay. Probably online was more fun too.
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orangebard
League 1
- 9 August 2004
Mentioned in the retro topic, went back to 2012. Its much much much harder to create shooting chances and to score from them even with the likes of Ronaldo. And its not because keepers are that great but because shooting is effected by so many aspects most of the shots are scuffed, going over, going wide...and not to mention you have to create those shooting chances which is against more difficult, you think twice who you want to shoot with and which foot to use. And even then the keeper can make a save and thats a wow what the hell PES moment. New PES is vell balanced but it's coding in terms of gameplay comes off as a game created in the 80's, 90's very plain and rigid, same thing happens all the time. (Not to mention AI has way more attacking patterns and skilled players dribble at you succesfully, its all unpredictable). Thus new PES is boring and annoying as this is the year 2020 and an 9 years old game beats it by miles in gameplay. Probably online was more fun too.
What I would give for 2012 being brought back with up-to-date graphics and 360 degree dribbling.
Berjan1986
Conference
- 22 April 2007
Cocaine is nowerdays dope. So when Maradonna plays today he will be suspended.
Today the sport is much faster then back in the days of Maradonna. You cant compare Messi with Maradonna.
I think a Maradonna today won't be that good as Maradonna in his time. When you see the goal he makes against England, the dribble past six players, this shall not happen today in top competition.
whiteballlegend
Non-League
- 29 November 2020
konami has took the scripting in this game too far, and there is no difference between scripting and real life matchfixing as Konami financially benefits from rigging eFootball games.
Just curious, does anyone know how much some of the accuracy skill cards affect accuracy on top of player attributes? Im talking about skills like heading, chip shot control, long range drive and long range shooting, pin point crossing etc (I know some skill card like weighted and low lofted pass have affects that even high attribute doesn't replicate). But if your player is already elite, say 95+ rating in relevant player attribute (heading, jumping, lofted pass, finishing, kicking power, curl, etc), is the skill card for these giving that much of a boost?
just play quick match or friendlies, everything else is scripting hell.
whiteballlegend
Non-League
- 29 November 2020
Due to scripting and handicapping, I don’t know what is more meaningless in a PvP game: through pass player skill, pinpoint crossing player skill, gamesmanship player skill, having 99 in all Goalkeeper attributes, having 99 in both passing statistics(as passing is too automated & contextual), or having 99 offensive awareness.
And speaking of passes, whenever a regular triangle pass contextually lofts in the air, it means the pass is 100% scripted & it’ll be advantageous/disadvantageous for you/against you. It’ll always lead to something really positive or it’ll mean you will lose possession unfairly. Nothing in-between.
slamsoze
International
- 28 September 2010
Are those issues from 2020, finally fixed in 2021?
(Both the No-Fouls and the false-collision fouls)
If not, are they at least any better?
(Both the No-Fouls and the false-collision fouls)
If not, are they at least any better?
whiteballlegend
Non-League
- 29 November 2020
Those issues are not fixed. Referee decisions are usually based on favoring whatever Konami’s narrative on a specific game is, regardless of how unnatural or unfair the decisions are.
Does anyone experience stuttering on tue Xbox Series? E.g. when you kick a long Ball, you can see it's ghost shadows. Players movement is also a little bit blurry. I have the Series S, playing on a Samsung 55MU7009 through a Denon AVR 250 BT, HDR is enabled. I tried to connect the Series S directly to the TV. Other games (BF1, Forza Horizon 4, Unravel) run well, but Long Dark was also stuttering when turning up an down. Anyone else with same issues?
TheWolf
Premier League
I just can't keep forcing myself to like this game. Some things are great and definitely on the right track but I find myself making excuses for things I really shouldn't. Back to FIFA 16 until PES2022 comes out for the XBox Series X. Hopefully Konami will get their act together because 2021 isn't too far off being one of the best in the series but the things that annoy/frustrate me are just too much.
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mahanddeem
Champions League
- 11 October 2007
Having a blast with pes2021 with smoke patch+sider+nesa cameras+natural light+community made stadiums.
Danny Henry
The King is dead.
- 16 September 2013
I don't remember if it was Spoony or The Midnight Kid that have said that keepers are better this year and not in a unrealistic way. Well, I have to desagree with that. Superman saves are back this year. It's almost impossible to score from long rangers even on manual shooting. I'm not saying mid range shot with R2. Theres so many ways to beat the goalie in real life, laces shot, outside foot shot, dip above the goalie, bending the shot around the goalie, low shot bubbling in the low corner etc etc.
Shooting in this game rigid, repetitive and predictable this year indeed. It's like sports games in general are made by people that never actually play the game ever in their lives these days. I have tried NBA 2k recently. Dude, wtf they have done to that game?
(Yes I know that I already said that many times for many years.)
New patch out, not sure what it fixes.
I haven't played in a while due to family commitments but it felt slower and against Arsenal on TP as Liverpool i got 3 freekicks within the first 10 mins on the clock - only played for about 7 mins though so next game might be completely different
I haven't played in a while due to family commitments but it felt slower and against Arsenal on TP as Liverpool i got 3 freekicks within the first 10 mins on the clock - only played for about 7 mins though so next game might be completely different
PRO_TOO
Team Heffernan
when i started the PS5 this morning to download the other games NG patch (wich wasnt available here in GER) i downloaded the PES update instead.
couldnt manage to play a match before work so all testing will be done tonight.
medhatithi
Conference
- 6 April 2014
Fifa 21 next gen is released in ps5, I hear people are playing, hope you get the update soon. Right now the defense is atrocious no challenge from cpu a.i. If possible please check how pes 21 plays in ps5 and the graphics too. Thanks 😊
normazimuth
League 1
- 18 May 2013
I see it has the dreaded " A variety of minor adjustments have been made to each mode to improve the overall gaming experience. " message attached to it.
The game is so fragile in terms of how easily it can slip from being really enjoyable to utterly unbearable that I daren't download this. The DP2 patch is pretty good imo and brought significant improvements over the vanilla and release day patch versions, albeit with a caveat that you still have to overlook numerous glaring issues to be able to enjoy those elements of the gameplay that are really good. But I cannot go back to vanilla, which I found to be a mostly bad gaming experience.
I find it impossible to trust anyone's opinion anymore as it is such a highly personal thing and the game can vary so much from the sublime to the ridiculous, both from match to match and even within a single match. There is a very clear requirement to give users the ability to choose which patch they want to run, or at least the option to roll-back to previous version.
PRO_TOO
Team Heffernan
...and i was reading: "...to choose which patch they want to ruin the game!"
not that far off the truth though...
i get you!i left that downloading before work 53 gig
PRO_TOO
Team Heffernan
i was only able to set the PS5 in rest mode this morning... lets hope its all downloaded when i get home.
gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
Whats wrong with some of the new faces? The eyes are completely shut. Is it like that during gameplay too?
Probably AI got tired of bullshit in a game and needed to rest, therefore eyes are closed
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gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
Never mind probably just a screenshots.Probably AI got tired of bullshit in a game and needed to rest, therefore eyes are closed
g2bam
Conference
- 5 March 2007
Suddenly the shoot button becomes a pass!
In the melee of the penalty box when it's crowded and your player picks up the ball, press shoot and instead the player passes to some random guy and you don't get your shot.
Sometimes it works to your advantage but it's a crucial change and very annoying when you want a blast at goal and a pass is made instead.
Player switching is even worse I feel, I'm pressing L1 like mad all through the match and its's a very hit and miss switch.
AI seems to like attacking a bit more, played about 5 games and lost 3 by 1-0 in the 89th minute with an unstoppable shot. Nice to see some long distance shooting too from the AI though, a big change there.
AI possession is like 65 - 75% even for wee diddy teams, something wrong there too.
As usual no ref updates, no penalties, rare that you get a free kick, but loads of stupid and non-fouls in the centre circle with 3 pointless replays from various angles just to add to the frustration.
I wonder why I don't play this game every day, after 3 or 4 games of stop-start and massive AI cheating and no ref decisions going your way, who needs it?!
Sigh!
In the melee of the penalty box when it's crowded and your player picks up the ball, press shoot and instead the player passes to some random guy and you don't get your shot.
Sometimes it works to your advantage but it's a crucial change and very annoying when you want a blast at goal and a pass is made instead.
Player switching is even worse I feel, I'm pressing L1 like mad all through the match and its's a very hit and miss switch.
AI seems to like attacking a bit more, played about 5 games and lost 3 by 1-0 in the 89th minute with an unstoppable shot. Nice to see some long distance shooting too from the AI though, a big change there.
AI possession is like 65 - 75% even for wee diddy teams, something wrong there too.
As usual no ref updates, no penalties, rare that you get a free kick, but loads of stupid and non-fouls in the centre circle with 3 pointless replays from various angles just to add to the frustration.
I wonder why I don't play this game every day, after 3 or 4 games of stop-start and massive AI cheating and no ref decisions going your way, who needs it?!
Sigh!