that's the part i also did not like, it was basically more of an announcement than a trailer, now we have to wait for the gameplay and details.
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- Thread starter PRO_TOO
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I can't remember the last time I posted on this board but holy sh*t did they just murder one of my beloved franchise? They made an announcement of it too like they are proud of it. Pro Evolution Soccer is one of the most iconic name in videogame history, I can't believe they just throw away decades of history just like that. I feel like this company runs by literal schizos, what the f is wrong with them? It's not like PES is in a bad situation, It's actually in good position to compete with FIFA this generation. I'm so shocked with what I've witnessed. Sell this franchise to other deserving publisher, Konami, you bunch of fuckn abominations.
tosser
League 2
- 10 June 2018
I've never felt completely comfortable with games going online, the sense of escapism was lost and I always knew some bullshit like this was possible.
I hope this opens the market for another football game, and loot boxes are banned.
I hope this opens the market for another football game, and loot boxes are banned.
Goldstone
Championship
- 1 August 2017
How times have changed...... it's now FIFA your offline fix & e(fucking)Football for online. What a travesty.
Chuny
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- 11 December 2007
That remains to be seen though...
Calvin
Premier League
- 5 December 2008
can someone be kind enough to sum up what was happend please ? or point me to the page that started all of this discussion ? I mean, what is going on ?
Konami isn't making PES anymore. It's called eFootball and is a free online mobile phone game that you will be able to play on your PS5 as well. Offline modes will MAYBE come at a later stage.
Desox
Non-League
- 7 August 2019
- Team
- Peñarol
They cheaped out and are releasing a jim sterling voice LoIvE sErViCe free to pay game, which uses the same shoddy mobile engine on all platforms, meaning obviously simplified gameplay otherwise how will mobile play, graphics that look like an absolute scam compared to their 2020 teaser trailer and worse than vanilla pes 2021, paid unlockable offline content like master league (and by the looks of it, it'll probably be the exact same as in later entries) and be a legend, which even though it took them two years to develop somehow won't be ready until winter, and acting like this is good.
Sami 1999
Noob
- 28 June 2015
I got depression seeing e-Footballs cloth physicsI think @Sami 1999 will be delighted with this, knowing his obsession with the matter:
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Cloth physics for you, buddy!
When I asked for cloth physics, I meant this:
Not that abomination we got in e-Football. Good god even the name is giving me depression
Dr Force
Golden Boot Winner
In summary
>PES is no more
>rebranded as efootball
>it’s free to play but littered with micro transactions
>it has hardly any licenses or teams
>it’s cross gen inclusive of mobile devices/phones
>it looks like utter shit
>it looks like the graphic design has been done by someone high on crack
Sami 1999
Noob
- 28 June 2015
FIFA and Madden are doing the same thing. I asked my mate who used to work at EA and he tells me that their argument for doing so is because they not everyone has a good enough computer to run the new game and it's improvements. So instead of giving us the option to turn on and off features depending on our machines, no one on PC gets the new stuff. I imagine Konami will use the same argument.
The AI are the foundation of the football. Improving them their abilities, in a realistic manner, improves every aspect of gameplay.
Goldstone
Championship
- 1 August 2017
So essentially what they're releasing early autumn is pretty much an eFootball demo. 9 teams with local games & cross gen online matches. 9 fucking teams.....
2 years & they haven't even been able come up with names for the modes. This whole thing seems like a hatchet job thrown together at the last minute.
Maybe they couldn't get to grips with PES 2022 development so decided to go down this route & expand as it goes. I don't believe for one second that this time last year the plan was to release this, not a chance.
It's PES 2008 & 14 all over again, new generation of systems they can't/couldn't get to grips with only this time it's terminal & they've dropped the game off a cliff for good.
2 years & they haven't even been able come up with names for the modes. This whole thing seems like a hatchet job thrown together at the last minute.
Maybe they couldn't get to grips with PES 2022 development so decided to go down this route & expand as it goes. I don't believe for one second that this time last year the plan was to release this, not a chance.
It's PES 2008 & 14 all over again, new generation of systems they can't/couldn't get to grips with only this time it's terminal & they've dropped the game off a cliff for good.
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lilicesar
Non-League
- 5 May 2018
Now I understand these two, they knew what would come with this shit from efootball !!
Chuny
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- 11 December 2007
Saint Angelo
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Honestly, not shocked, not surprised, not sad even. If anything, this is a completely new direction that will switch things up.
Offline side of things, especially Master League, was horrendous for years. It was clear they had no ideas and no intentions to improve it. If you want a good ML, PES 3 probably still has the best one.
F2P means stepping away from shitty yearly releases and improving the game continuously. If other leagues and teams are available via DLC that's even better - instead of paying €50 for a lackluster game where I bet 90%+ of the price is to cover the licensing costs.
There is still potential that the gameplay will be horrendous, and especially now online connectivity is everything. If it's same clunky trash with Establishing Communications in the background half the time well then waste of time. If it'll be a fluid, online football game with proper servers I will actually enjoy it a lot.
PES was dead and gone long ago, there's nothing to mourn really. You can argue about when - some will say 2008, others 2013. Overwhelming amount of modern games was just misery - lags, scripts, clunkiness, the whole package. If anything I'm happy they are rebranding and laying the old name to rest after a decade of being dragged through mud.
To be honest quite happy about the whole situation. Most likely the game will have lots of issues though and won't be enjoyable, even though the model sounds good to me.
Offline side of things, especially Master League, was horrendous for years. It was clear they had no ideas and no intentions to improve it. If you want a good ML, PES 3 probably still has the best one.
F2P means stepping away from shitty yearly releases and improving the game continuously. If other leagues and teams are available via DLC that's even better - instead of paying €50 for a lackluster game where I bet 90%+ of the price is to cover the licensing costs.
There is still potential that the gameplay will be horrendous, and especially now online connectivity is everything. If it's same clunky trash with Establishing Communications in the background half the time well then waste of time. If it'll be a fluid, online football game with proper servers I will actually enjoy it a lot.
PES was dead and gone long ago, there's nothing to mourn really. You can argue about when - some will say 2008, others 2013. Overwhelming amount of modern games was just misery - lags, scripts, clunkiness, the whole package. If anything I'm happy they are rebranding and laying the old name to rest after a decade of being dragged through mud.
To be honest quite happy about the whole situation. Most likely the game will have lots of issues though and won't be enjoyable, even though the model sounds good to me.
its999maggle
Custom Title:
You're not getting an upgrade. We're getting a downgrade.
Ameobinho
League 2
- 10 August 2018
Absolutely not surprised, This game and community have been betrayed by Konami's PR team and their shills. We have fought for 5-6 years to at least delay the inevitable and try to save some essential elements of the football game we loved.
The community has kept this game alive by putting hours and hours of work to fix every disaster that Konami came up with, They were never honest and kept abusing and bullying us.
We fought against scripting, Catch up bug, Broken referees, Awful awful AI, Broken ML with stupid regens, fixed their tactics, Ridiculous option file transfer mechanisms and data packs that broke the game every 2 months.
We filled surveys, Went into their facebook feedback pages and tried to listen to their puppets who kept lying and lying and lying every day.
At the end we only have fifa for an offline fix, I hope the apologists are happy that the three year plan is on track.
The community has kept this game alive by putting hours and hours of work to fix every disaster that Konami came up with, They were never honest and kept abusing and bullying us.
We fought against scripting, Catch up bug, Broken referees, Awful awful AI, Broken ML with stupid regens, fixed their tactics, Ridiculous option file transfer mechanisms and data packs that broke the game every 2 months.
We filled surveys, Went into their facebook feedback pages and tried to listen to their puppets who kept lying and lying and lying every day.
At the end we only have fifa for an offline fix, I hope the apologists are happy that the three year plan is on track.
Mdizzl3
League 2
- 7 July 2018
I cannot believe they are launching this with just 9 teams. Even if more come after a few months this will be super boring after a couple of hours especially as we only have offline friendlies
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PRO_TOO
Team Heffernan
i did not know till today, konami got another e-series out for longer: eBaseball! 
https://e-baseball.konami.net/pawa_proleague/
my question now: how is that baseball game in terms of gameplay?! a sim? sim-cade?
no wonder they moved the football game in the same direction. if i'd only knew 2 years ago... i would've made other conclusions.
anyway, will go through 3 pages of comments from last night! i hope i find some to cheer me up and i also hope for no more Shressis without spoiler tags!
https://e-baseball.konami.net/pawa_proleague/
my question now: how is that baseball game in terms of gameplay?! a sim? sim-cade?
no wonder they moved the football game in the same direction. if i'd only knew 2 years ago... i would've made other conclusions.
anyway, will go through 3 pages of comments from last night! i hope i find some to cheer me up and i also hope for no more Shressis without spoiler tags!
There are actually 2 "eBaseball" titles, Pawapuro (the one with a cartoonish character) and "Professional Baseball Spirits". Compared to last few PES titles, they had better offline modes.i did not know till today, konami got another e-series out for longer: eBaseball!
https://e-baseball.konami.net/pawa_proleague/
my question now: how is that baseball game in terms of gameplay?! a sim? sim-cade?
no wonder they moved the football game in the same direction. if i'd only knew 2 years ago... i would've made other conclusions.
anyway, will go through 3 pages of comments from last night! i hope i find some to cheer me up and i also hope for no more Shressis without spoiler tags!
Pawapuro 2020
Professional Baseball Sprits 2021 (Nintendo Switch only)
Well, I don't think it will happen. At least not in the near future.
This being said, I'd love Namco to come back. We don't even need licences of any kind!
...and they could finally bring back Janssens from "90 Minutes EPG", one of the most underrated midfielders ever from a really underrated game (which was great for the time).
PES doesn't exist anymore. Wiped. Murdered.
From now on we'll have eFootball, an online-centered, MyClub-driven PvP experience focusing on 1 vs. 1 gameplay (even between PS5 and iPhone!) and microtransactions.
It certainly does not look like simulation of baseball - but you can say it definitely looks like it can be a mobile-console-pc playable at the same time, considering graphics.i did not know till today, konami got another e-series out for longer: eBaseball!
https://e-baseball.konami.net/pawa_proleague/
my question now: how is that baseball game in terms of gameplay?! a sim? sim-cade?
no wonder they moved the football game in the same direction. if i'd only knew 2 years ago... i would've made other conclusions.
anyway, will go through 3 pages of comments from last night! i hope i find some to cheer me up and i also hope for no more Shressis without spoiler tags!
If that’s efootball future then I can only laugh.
Do people still believe in that guy?
>freaking end of august
Why not address all the questions and confusions now? They literally making us wait for nothing.
I still cannot believe that this is a two years worth of development TWO FREAKING YEARS!!!! A small unknown dev with 5 people can produce much more in a short period of time. What the hell were they doing for the last two years, taking vacations? What the actual fudge. I am really furious right now, if I'm being honest. They keep lying straight to our face and we keep supporting them, maybe we are to blame.
simomkd
League 1
- 6 October 2020
and when I pointed that out to all the lazy-lame-PES-fanboy-fuckers on youtube they sad "ehi man, chill out, it's jst a 6-minute trailer, wait for final releas, YOU CANNOT JUDGE".
Not judge MY A**!