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Mauras said:Probably
But we cannot say bad things about Jardel you and me . We have had our profit from that crazy guarani
PLF said:Bravo!!! Very well said mate!! :applause:
You mentioned nearly all the things I would've but didn't want to as it's all a sad subject for me and you too I'm sure since when writing these posts we have to remember:
1) Just how F'n Great he WAS!! (which I don't think a lot of people here realize! They knew he was a GOOD player but they didn't know he was top top top class in his peak and one of the best)
2) How he is now and how he's a shadow of the player he used to be.
I still have some things to add and will do so when I get a bit of time but your post is perfect and just gives all the info one really needs I think.
Thanks for taking off this load off my shoulders.
Djalminha said:Well, PLF "summoned" me, so here I am to talk about the once almighty, now disgraceful, Diego Tristán.
His story is one we've seen many times: idol with feet of clay, big talent wasted, sportsman not as focused on sport as he should be, etc, etc. The thing with Tristan is not so different from that about Kluivert and other fantastic young footballers who don't know how to cope with fame and money.
Tristan is an object of love and hate for Depor fans. The Riazor attendants are divided in those who are called "tristanistas" (Diego's followers, just as me) and those who can't stand him. The later group is steadily growing from about three years on. Even at his glory days, first and second season at Depor, there were rumours about Tristan's night life. Then, one day, it all exploded. A redactor in chief of Galicia and A Coruña most influential newspaper, "La Voz de Galicia", wrote an article unveiling Tristan bad habits, titled "¿Dónde vas, Diego Tristán? ("Where are you going, D.T.?"). Everyone in the city talked about it and in no time everyone of us knew at least one story or two about Diego's dark side. It was said that he loved to drink in true George Best's fashion and you could find him during week days in some local clubs. He was also ackonwleged as a "golden member" of the city Casino, where he spent lots of time and money. There are even stories about drug abuse (cocaine). People who attended Depor training sessions refered how he was late for work often and how Irureta (Deportivo coach who always demonstrated faith in Diego's talent in spite of his work ethics) tried to look to other side when the striker showed obvious signs (aftermath) of his nightlife diet. All this caused him to fall in disgrace with a major part of the Depor fandome, and it was easy to link every chance missed in the field with his not-so-healthy habits.
That's, put in a short way, the story with Tristan as a public icon. There's another story, far more interesting (at least to me, that's it), that refers strictly to the football facts. Diego is (WAS, should be said, maybe) a magnificent center forward, top-class, technically gifted, one of the most talented players ever to grace Deportivo squad (alongside Mauro Silva, Bebeto, Fran, Rivaldo, Valerón and Djalminha). While Makaay scored goals with the coolness and precission of a surgeon, Tristán was an artist. He had it all: powerful shot with both legs, dribble, precission, good header (wonderful placement of the ball) and, above all of this, imagination and self-confidence. That last thing, self-confidence, is what remains of that former Pichichi (top scorer) winner. The player we knew dissappeared after the injury he suffered in World Cup 2002, where he was suppossed to play a major role for Spain NT. He spent a lot of time trying to recover from that ankle injury, but he never achieved the level of play he showed in his two first seasons.
Tristan's recent campaings are those of a footballer in bad shape, with his mind working way faster than his body. He always makes the bad choice, dribbles when he's suppossed to pass, passes when he's meant to shoot, etc. He tries to score the season greatest goal in every play, but he never manages it. All these facts show that he still has his original self-confidence, and thinks about himself as the player he once was. The video Mauras posted is all evidence you need about Tristan's actual fit: look at the jerseys he wears; none ot them are from recent seasons.
But there's a curious fact. Every now and then at Riazor we catch a glimpse from the great player he was. In 2004/05 season he played a wonderful game at Villarreal stadium, and he even replaced Valeron in a few matches, playing as a supporting striker and did very well. Also, there's an undeniable fact: last season he ranked second in Spanish's top scorers list (just second to David Villa). Many of his goals were taken from the penalty spot, but a dozen of goals is a respectful mark for any striker in La Liga. He was still the more reliable scorer of Deportivo in our worst season in years.
Let's finish. Regarding Mauras interest, here are my thoughts about Diego's new sport life outside A Coruña. He was a marvellous player. Nowadays, he's just a good player, but one who can easily desesperate the fans because of his style of playing: he's baroque, always tries to dribble five defenders in each play, and his physical abbility is below his talent. On the other hand, he's an intelligent footballer, one who can support a great striker, and can score about 10-15 goals per season if he plays as regular starter. Methinks 3,5 million is a fair deal, cause he's got the potential and you never know if he can reconduct his career away from Coruña's discos and pubs. At first, it seemed he didn't want to play for a Portuguese team (he prefers Liga or Premiership better), but today local newspapers talk about the fact that Lisbon is nearer from Andalucia, his place of birth, so the striker could change his mind.
I'll miss him very much, as he was what remained of Deportivo golden years as European serious contenders. I wish him all the best, cause I enjoyed his football very much. There's a Spanish saying that suits him perfectly, and goes like this: "Diego Tristán, genio y figura hasta la sepultura (genious and figure till the day he dies)".
Sedat said:Diego Might be heading too Fenerbahce