Bundesliga Thread 2012/13
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bebo
Looking for a Manager
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
This league has the best manager in the world. JNK doesnt need money he is brilliant!
This league has the best manager in the world. JNK doesnt need money he is brilliant!
harryhausen
League 1
- 20 July 2010
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
This defeat vs M'gladbach is a shame. No ideas, no tempo, no concept of playing football. Same football as we played with van Gaal. Possesion, possesion but no result. Our defense is better now, but our offense is not variable enough. Our oponnents know how to play against our static ball possesion tactic. Even Braunschweig can stop us as we could see in the cup match on Monday. Yes, we won, but with two penalties. And this against a team, which promoted to the second league.
Heynckes said after the game he wished there would be more crosses. This man is totally crazy. More crosses as we seen in the game is just impossible. Today I noticed nearly 30. And they're horrible, aren't they?
Robben can play only one style. Dribble at the right side, going in with his left foot and shoot bottom left or top right. Yes, he is worldclass in this situations if his opponents let him, but they're knowing his style after 2 years in the Bundesliga.
If we play more matches like this, congrats to Dortmund. They play like real champions and they've very good possiblities to go on top of german football for years.
This defeat vs M'gladbach is a shame. No ideas, no tempo, no concept of playing football. Same football as we played with van Gaal. Possesion, possesion but no result. Our defense is better now, but our offense is not variable enough. Our oponnents know how to play against our static ball possesion tactic. Even Braunschweig can stop us as we could see in the cup match on Monday. Yes, we won, but with two penalties. And this against a team, which promoted to the second league.
Heynckes said after the game he wished there would be more crosses. This man is totally crazy. More crosses as we seen in the game is just impossible. Today I noticed nearly 30. And they're horrible, aren't they?
Robben can play only one style. Dribble at the right side, going in with his left foot and shoot bottom left or top right. Yes, he is worldclass in this situations if his opponents let him, but they're knowing his style after 2 years in the Bundesliga.
If we play more matches like this, congrats to Dortmund. They play like real champions and they've very good possiblities to go on top of german football for years.
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
Now, now. It was the first match of the season. We have a new coach and basically a completely new defense with two new guys in and Lahm back on the left. To be this harsh is unfair to Heynckes, who - though I'm not particulary a fan of his -, as any other coach, will need some time to shape this team into what he thinks is the right way of playing.
And criticizing Robben after one below average game? Dude, this guy is the most consistently world-class player I haver ever seen at our club (with the exception of maybe Mehmet Scholl and Elber). He was missing important training sessions the days prior this game due to injury, he'll be our decider in important matches again soon enough.
After having been more or less "brutally" indoctrinated with a football-philosophy they aren't quite the right type a bunch for ('cept of course the wingers Ribery and Robben) by LVG, it'll need a bit of time to get this out of their collective heads again.
The blunder by Neuer was a present of a goal as well. Add to that two mistakenly disallowed goals due to offside and you get yourself a pretty average, yet dominant (in the "old ways") performance with an incredibly unlucky outcome. Frustrating, yes, yet nothing to hobble over for too long. In 9 out of 10 cases Bayern wins games like this. Well, maybe 8 out of 10 these days.
No doubt, however, about the pure class Dortmund portrayed on Friday. They are the real deal and quite possibly able to pull off another great season. Bayern can't lose many more points like this if they wanna keep up, so much is certain.
Now, now. It was the first match of the season. We have a new coach and basically a completely new defense with two new guys in and Lahm back on the left. To be this harsh is unfair to Heynckes, who - though I'm not particulary a fan of his -, as any other coach, will need some time to shape this team into what he thinks is the right way of playing.
And criticizing Robben after one below average game? Dude, this guy is the most consistently world-class player I haver ever seen at our club (with the exception of maybe Mehmet Scholl and Elber). He was missing important training sessions the days prior this game due to injury, he'll be our decider in important matches again soon enough.
After having been more or less "brutally" indoctrinated with a football-philosophy they aren't quite the right type a bunch for ('cept of course the wingers Ribery and Robben) by LVG, it'll need a bit of time to get this out of their collective heads again.
The blunder by Neuer was a present of a goal as well. Add to that two mistakenly disallowed goals due to offside and you get yourself a pretty average, yet dominant (in the "old ways") performance with an incredibly unlucky outcome. Frustrating, yes, yet nothing to hobble over for too long. In 9 out of 10 cases Bayern wins games like this. Well, maybe 8 out of 10 these days.
No doubt, however, about the pure class Dortmund portrayed on Friday. They are the real deal and quite possibly able to pull off another great season. Bayern can't lose many more points like this if they wanna keep up, so much is certain.
cfdh_edmundo
Maverick
- 30 December 2002
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
That's the thing, Bayern at home to Gladbach should be a home win every time. It would be one thing to drop points at home to Dortmund, HSV, Leverkusen etc, but most top Bundesliga teams will not lose at home to Gladbach. They've Wolfsburg away and HSV at home next, with the "derbies" against Zurich in the middle.
That's the thing, Bayern at home to Gladbach should be a home win every time. It would be one thing to drop points at home to Dortmund, HSV, Leverkusen etc, but most top Bundesliga teams will not lose at home to Gladbach. They've Wolfsburg away and HSV at home next, with the "derbies" against Zurich in the middle.
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
Last time when Bayern lost in first round was Gladbach. They didnt beat them with 2 difference 7 or 8 years...
Its one of worst Bayern enemys... Gladbach is strong team, they was one of best teams in 2nd part of season... IDK maybe Jupp dont wont to beat favorite team (remember 6-3 against Leverkusen)
Last time when Bayern lost in first round was Gladbach. They didnt beat them with 2 difference 7 or 8 years...
Its one of worst Bayern enemys... Gladbach is strong team, they was one of best teams in 2nd part of season... IDK maybe Jupp dont wont to beat favorite team (remember 6-3 against Leverkusen)
OPM
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- 2 June 2003
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we7god
Kreisklassen-Profi
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
Since he declared not to expand the contract at Schalke - he did more miskates than ever before in the last years. Maybe all the critics have influenced him much more as he wanted to make us believe.
He is still one of the best GKs worldwide, but his performaces are not that strong like some month ago.
Since he declared not to expand the contract at Schalke - he did more miskates than ever before in the last years. Maybe all the critics have influenced him much more as he wanted to make us believe.
He is still one of the best GKs worldwide, but his performaces are not that strong like some month ago.
OPM
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- 2 June 2003
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Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
he might need time to settle. but that's probably going to cost bayern the decisive points regarding the title.
he might need time to settle. but that's probably going to cost bayern the decisive points regarding the title.
gerd
Retired Footballer
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
Well i remember JM Pfaff's first matches for Bayern...far from a success with a few howlers like Neuer yesterday...he turned out to be a legendary GK for Bayern...but in those days clubs (and fans) had patience with new players.
Well i remember JM Pfaff's first matches for Bayern...far from a success with a few howlers like Neuer yesterday...he turned out to be a legendary GK for Bayern...but in those days clubs (and fans) had patience with new players.
Aboutreika18
Too Black, Too Strong
- 5 September 2006
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
Plus, I don't think Pfaff had the fans on his back even before he'd joined Bayern, like Neuer.
Plus, I don't think Pfaff had the fans on his back even before he'd joined Bayern, like Neuer.
lazyForken
Championship
- 24 August 2007
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
Man borrusia dortmund is a very impressive side...WOW really taking europe by storm right now... Amazing teamwork mixed with an anormous workrate mixed with amazing skill,technique and quick passing. They pressure like barcelona do and they play that quick one touch football but with a more direct approach than barca.
From the back to the front the side is Heavily strong. Im eager to see what they can produce in the champion league. altought I think they need a couple more signing to keep pace with the league and the cl at the same time.
Man borrusia dortmund is a very impressive side...WOW really taking europe by storm right now... Amazing teamwork mixed with an anormous workrate mixed with amazing skill,technique and quick passing. They pressure like barcelona do and they play that quick one touch football but with a more direct approach than barca.
From the back to the front the side is Heavily strong. Im eager to see what they can produce in the champion league. altought I think they need a couple more signing to keep pace with the league and the cl at the same time.
gerd
Retired Footballer
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
Borussia Dortmund in the CL? I think they are among the favourites to win...the Euro League.
The certainly have a talented team, but they lack experience.
Borussia Dortmund in the CL? I think they are among the favourites to win...the Euro League.
The certainly have a talented team, but they lack experience.
lazyForken
Championship
- 24 August 2007
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
Schalke olmost got into the semis and what an average side schalke was last year...Dortmund is a better side than Bayern. I think they are going to suprise a few gerd including you =p
Schalke olmost got into the semis and what an average side schalke was last year...Dortmund is a better side than Bayern. I think they are going to suprise a few gerd including you =p
cfdh_edmundo
Maverick
- 30 December 2002
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
I read that Dortmund could have a very hard group as they might not get a favourable seeding.
I read that Dortmund could have a very hard group as they might not get a favourable seeding.
gerd
Retired Footballer
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
Schalke had an average side with experienced players...but seriously believing in Murphy's law i think now that i have said this about Borussia, they could well win the CL.
My favourite team (Genk) still has a chance to go to the CL, if they do, then they will have to face Dortmund and Dortmund will destroy them...those things always happen to me.
Schalke had an average side with experienced players...but seriously believing in Murphy's law i think now that i have said this about Borussia, they could well win the CL.
My favourite team (Genk) still has a chance to go to the CL, if they do, then they will have to face Dortmund and Dortmund will destroy them...those things always happen to me.
PLF
Legend
- 2 August 2004
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
I agree with Gerd but yeah I was gonna say the same thing lazyForken said. Look at what Schalke did last year! And their team was nowhere near as good as BVB was last year and is still now.
And yeah they had Raul and Metzelder who are both past their best as experienced men but other than that, some young players and some who had some experience like Neuer but not a LOT.
BVB has Kehl as well as captain though he's often not a starter anymore because of emergence of Sven Bender and Internationals like Lucas Barrios who's played in World Cup etc.
But true, I know what Gerd is talking about as well and agree. As great as this team is, a lot of their players are very young! Gotze for example might show off his talents in CL or for all we know, piss his pants playing Real Madrid in Santiago Bernabeu for example and get pushed around by Ramos and Pepe and Co.. we'll find out I guess.
I'm really looking forward to seeing LOSC and BVB in CL this year though. Both champions of their big countries! Both full of talent and lots of young talent and it'll be interesting to see how Kagawa, Hazard, Gotze and co. do in CL. I think they'll do fine.
I agree with Gerd but yeah I was gonna say the same thing lazyForken said. Look at what Schalke did last year! And their team was nowhere near as good as BVB was last year and is still now.
And yeah they had Raul and Metzelder who are both past their best as experienced men but other than that, some young players and some who had some experience like Neuer but not a LOT.
BVB has Kehl as well as captain though he's often not a starter anymore because of emergence of Sven Bender and Internationals like Lucas Barrios who's played in World Cup etc.
But true, I know what Gerd is talking about as well and agree. As great as this team is, a lot of their players are very young! Gotze for example might show off his talents in CL or for all we know, piss his pants playing Real Madrid in Santiago Bernabeu for example and get pushed around by Ramos and Pepe and Co.. we'll find out I guess.
I'm really looking forward to seeing LOSC and BVB in CL this year though. Both champions of their big countries! Both full of talent and lots of young talent and it'll be interesting to see how Kagawa, Hazard, Gotze and co. do in CL. I think they'll do fine.
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
They are in 4th box
that mean they can get group: Barca, Milan and City
They are in 4th box
that mean they can get group: Barca, Milan and City
PLF
Legend
- 2 August 2004
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
That sucks!
What about Lille? Are they 4th seeded as well? Or 3rd?
That sucks!
What about Lille? Are they 4th seeded as well? Or 3rd?
gerd
Retired Footballer
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
To be honest and as a big fan, i don't expect much from Lille, they lost 3 very important players (Rami, Cabaye and Gervinho) and Hazard is very young and inexperienced.
To be honest and as a big fan, i don't expect much from Lille, they lost 3 very important players (Rami, Cabaye and Gervinho) and Hazard is very young and inexperienced.
cfdh_edmundo
Maverick
- 30 December 2002
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
I think they would beat Milan home and away but they would struggle to finish above Barca or City.
I think they would beat Milan home and away but they would struggle to finish above Barca or City.
lazyForken
Championship
- 24 August 2007
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
Yea... if they could have keep gervinho and cabaye they could challenge...but I dont expect alot from them But I expect alot from BVB cause alot of people still considering the squad to be a one hit wonder...but they dont understand that most of this squad now are germany starters and are world class young players. Im pretty sure they will do very well and establish themselve in europes elite.
Yea... if they could have keep gervinho and cabaye they could challenge...but I dont expect alot from them But I expect alot from BVB cause alot of people still considering the squad to be a one hit wonder...but they dont understand that most of this squad now are germany starters and are world class young players. Im pretty sure they will do very well and establish themselve in europes elite.
PLF
Legend
- 2 August 2004
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
They good good replacements for their lost stars though Gerd so I think Lille will be fine but yah of course I don't expect much from them in the CL. But just looking forward to seeing them as well as BVB play. Not expecting anything.
They good good replacements for their lost stars though Gerd so I think Lille will be fine but yah of course I don't expect much from them in the CL. But just looking forward to seeing them as well as BVB play. Not expecting anything.
lazyForken
Championship
- 24 August 2007
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
Gotze scoring is first international goal against brazil...a beauty =p
the kid really starts to shine.
Gotze scoring is first international goal against brazil...a beauty =p
the kid really starts to shine.
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
Here we go again... Robben will not travel to Wolsburg.
I cant believe, he didnt play friendly, and get injured... he is like S.L. Jackson in movie Unbreakable
YouTube - Unbreakable - Trailer
Here we go again... Robben will not travel to Wolsburg.
I cant believe, he didnt play friendly, and get injured... he is like S.L. Jackson in movie Unbreakable
YouTube - Unbreakable - Trailer
we7god
Kreisklassen-Profi
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
welcome back: bayerndusel...
welcome back: bayerndusel...
harryhausen
League 1
- 20 July 2010
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
Just great.
And welcome back on earth, Borussia Dortmund.
welcome back: bayerndusel...
Just great.
And welcome back on earth, Borussia Dortmund.
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
+1
Games end, when the ref blow his whistle, not before.
Just great.
And welcome back on earth, Borussia Dortmund.
+1
Games end, when the ref blow his whistle, not before.
Re: Bundesliga Thread 2010/2011
What a fantastic match by Gladbach. I can't believe it. It's not the same team. Favre made great work with the same players who played in previous bad season. I hope they'll play like that in every match. This great club deserve it.
What a fantastic match by Gladbach. I can't believe it. It's not the same team. Favre made great work with the same players who played in previous bad season. I hope they'll play like that in every match. This great club deserve it.