vegasheat
Old Timer
Hey all,
I've been meaning to write this for a while now, and finally decided to do it. I am 39 yrs old, 40 to be in June. First gaming experience for me was Nintendo, first game Super Mario. Never owned Atari, Amiga or anything in that class. First football game I've played was ISS 98 on N64. So many memories and will always have a special place in my heart.....then came PS2 and I played every single PES/WE that there is to play. As we all know PS2 was the golden age for PES. With new-gen consoles coming out PES slowly started to fade away. Sure, PES 13, 17, 19 ( Pes 20 demo) are great and PES 21 in my opinion is nothing but a pretty woman from the outside that you can apply many different make ups that will make her even more sexier but she will always lack the "soul"....
Now, PES 21 is probably the last good PES. Everytning after that is horror, run for the hills. Unless someone comes and creates a new football game, you will be stuck modifying your PES 21 until you're in nursing home. Here starts the real talk:
I know probably most of you played older football games on Atari or Amiga, games like Sensible Soccer, Kick Off 1/2, Goal etc.
So I for the first time, for a month went and grabbed Amiga emulator and grabbed a copy of Kick Off 2 by Dino Dini, esp Final Whistle add on. For a few days, I had no clue what the hell I was doing, game looked like horse shit, I couldn't do anything, and all of it sudden it started to click. I started to understand this game. Everything felt real, how a football should be played. You can come to a ball from any side you want, you can kick it in front of you and come to it from any angle, you can trap the ball and pass in any direction you wish, the ball has the most realistic behavior I have ever seen in a football game. It does not stick to your feet.
I still am a complete noob, and would get my ass kicked by anyone....but I am just blown away by this game that was releasex in freaking 1991. I now understand what Dino Dini said about FIFA/PES....they deceive you with "realism" by graphics, presentation etc but none of these games offer any serious deep learning curve....how can a game made in 1991 be better fundamentaly than KONAMI/EA Ever released ?
Dino Dini, indie developer but his IQ for creating a football game is Albert Einstein.
I have a question for the old heads that played KO2 and are still here in the PES scene, what was your first experience with this game ? Did you like/dislike it...etc
I've been meaning to write this for a while now, and finally decided to do it. I am 39 yrs old, 40 to be in June. First gaming experience for me was Nintendo, first game Super Mario. Never owned Atari, Amiga or anything in that class. First football game I've played was ISS 98 on N64. So many memories and will always have a special place in my heart.....then came PS2 and I played every single PES/WE that there is to play. As we all know PS2 was the golden age for PES. With new-gen consoles coming out PES slowly started to fade away. Sure, PES 13, 17, 19 ( Pes 20 demo) are great and PES 21 in my opinion is nothing but a pretty woman from the outside that you can apply many different make ups that will make her even more sexier but she will always lack the "soul"....
Now, PES 21 is probably the last good PES. Everytning after that is horror, run for the hills. Unless someone comes and creates a new football game, you will be stuck modifying your PES 21 until you're in nursing home. Here starts the real talk:
I know probably most of you played older football games on Atari or Amiga, games like Sensible Soccer, Kick Off 1/2, Goal etc.
So I for the first time, for a month went and grabbed Amiga emulator and grabbed a copy of Kick Off 2 by Dino Dini, esp Final Whistle add on. For a few days, I had no clue what the hell I was doing, game looked like horse shit, I couldn't do anything, and all of it sudden it started to click. I started to understand this game. Everything felt real, how a football should be played. You can come to a ball from any side you want, you can kick it in front of you and come to it from any angle, you can trap the ball and pass in any direction you wish, the ball has the most realistic behavior I have ever seen in a football game. It does not stick to your feet.
I still am a complete noob, and would get my ass kicked by anyone....but I am just blown away by this game that was releasex in freaking 1991. I now understand what Dino Dini said about FIFA/PES....they deceive you with "realism" by graphics, presentation etc but none of these games offer any serious deep learning curve....how can a game made in 1991 be better fundamentaly than KONAMI/EA Ever released ?
Dino Dini, indie developer but his IQ for creating a football game is Albert Einstein.
I have a question for the old heads that played KO2 and are still here in the PES scene, what was your first experience with this game ? Did you like/dislike it...etc