Arsenal is a very big club in the richest League. That's your answer. I'm not even beginning to discuss whether this is fair or not.
But as for palmares, titles and past glory, I'm sorry but this means nothing to our discussion. Important titles give you cash prizes, increase your fanbase and make your brand more valuable. The rest is up to the Club to capitalize on. And here I ask you: can the best clubs in the Dutch, Belgian and Portuguese leagues capitalize in the same way?
Do you see the difference how football is marketed in England compared to other places? You gave Juventus as an example. I agree with you they're a huge, legendary and traditional club with lots of important titles. But not long ago they had been playing in Stadio Delle Alpi with the majority of empty seats. I'm not aware of how they're doing today at their new stadium, and I don't know how well they do on TV contracts in Italy. But things such as corruption and match fixing in Serie A, for example, certainly don't help.
Each country and league have characteristics of their own. The English Premier League happens to be the most profitable in the world. It's an extremely marketable product, TV rights sell for excellent rates all over the world (and TV rights distribution among English Clubs is quite fair, as we've covered here before - meaning that teams like Fulham can build a very competitive team too). Contrary to Italian clubs, Arsenal plays at every home fixture for a strong 60,000 supporters. I'm not exaggerating. And mind you, Arsenal is the most expensive ticket in the Premier League! So selling out the most expensive tickets, earning lots of money on TV rights all over the world and, because of the team's and the League's popularity, being able to sell a lot of merchandise and branded products in foreign markets, and so on. Some clubs from Holland, Belgium and Portugal didn't begin to scratch the surface on that. Sadly, they can't at the moment. Their leagues have to go much stronger and attractive first.
Do I think it's a good thing that a mid-table team like Fulham can be stronger than the Belgian Champions? No, it's not. But do I think it's unfair? No! It is what it is.
I think in the context of the profitability of the Premier League, Arsenal does very well to capitalize. And this is getting wealthy in a legitimate way. For me this is correct and all the Arsenal board can rest their heads on their pillows at night and have a clear conscience.
What is done at Chelsea and City? That is not natural, not legitimate and the fact that they do financial doping in the most profitable league in the world just make things even worst. I think it's a bizarre thing and if the authorities don't put a full stop to this we will see £1m a week salaries in 3 years.
This is not the tunnel vision of an English Arsenal supporter here, Gerd. I look at the bigger picture too. You mentioned Porto as an example. I am Brazilian, so consider this. When poor poor Porto has to sell their best players to stronger leagues, where do you think they look for replacements? How did they come up with Jardel? Deco? Hulk?
You are accusing English fans here of being too self-centered and looking at their own league, ignoring the smaller European Leagues. But I'll ask you: are you sure you aren't doing something similar? Aren't you an European who is too self-centered to even consider the impacts outside Europe?
At this point I'm guessing you follow worldwide football, so you might have an idea of how many young Brazilian prospects who go to Europe before even breaking into their first team in Brazil. Is this a good thing for Brazilian League? No! The quality level of the league is low, compared to Europe, but not only in structure, but also the players who stay (they're not good enough for Europe). The league is getting better because there's this trend of veteran superstars coming back to Brazil in their 30s, and with the World Cup 2014, Brazil is getting trendy and some famous foreigners are starting to go (Seedorf signed for Botafogo). But overall, the level of the league is nowhere near as good as the average European league. But do I think this is
unfair? No, man! It is what it is. It's a Dog Eat Dog business. In the end, someone who got financially out muscled will always find someone in a more fragile position and exploit them too! Come on, the Belgians do that too. What do you have to say about young South American players who go play in the Belgian league? Remember Oliveira, the Brazilian who even played for the Belgian national team and even forgot how to speak Portuguese?
Look, I was annoyed when Rafael and Fabio Da Silva were sold to Man United before even making a professional debut for Fluminense. But deep down inside I know they would go sooner or later anyway. But I also know they went to a team who got where they are based on tradition and legitimate growth. Man United are wealthy, but not by lottery.
But individuals taking over and industrially infecting money in a club, this is not normal, this is something I can't digest. And it doesn't help the other teams in the smaller leagues either. If anything it makes the whole thing even more unbalanced. I don't even know why you tend to "defend" the sugar daddy owned teams
Someone mentioned that those billionaires also invest in their homeland's clubs. This is true. I might be wrong, but doesn't Abramovich own a a major stake at CSKA Moskow? But then again, they are investors. They will go where the big bucks are. It's only logical they would choose England. They want to flash the cash. Only desperate players go to Anzhi or to other obscure leagues only because of money. I couldn't see Fernando Torres going to Russia.
The sugar daddies will want to operate in the biggest leagues and make their presence felt. But the minute they get tired of measuring their cock sizes in the form of £50m signings or trophies, we will see what will happen to City and Chelsea.
You asked me if I would like an Abramovich or Mansour to inject money in Fluminense or Arsenal. Arsenal doesn't need that, thank you very much. Fluminense is backed by a very powerful sponsor who is almost a sugar daddy - and you know what? It terrifies me to think of the day when they leave this agreement. So was I happy that Fluminense were Brazilian champions in 2010? Yes! Is this what I really want for my club? Short term success bought by an outsider's money? No! Some football fans are glory hunters and they don't care. But not me, I know I will be watching football in 20 years time and it would scare me to think what the consequences would be for my team after the suggar daddy leaves.