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Arsenal Thread

What a fucking moron! I want to kick his head in now! Fucking idiot.

The reason we turned on him because he lied to us and then held us to ransom for a pay rise. Then we gave him the raise and he lost all his passion and didn't try on the football pitch. THATS WHY WE FUCKING BOOED YOU YOU FUCKING LANKY PRICK!!!

On the other hand Fabregas has always stated that he will leave Arsenal one day. But everytime Barca/Madrid come in for him he categorically says that he doesn't want to leave Arsenal yet and he doesn't. He doesn't lie and then fuck around with us. Fabregas is our captain and treats the fans with respect. THATS WHY YOU GET BOOED AND FABREGAS DOESN'T YOU FUCKING MORON!!!

Really, I want to set his nuts on fire right at this moment!!
 
I won't get all worked up on something fucking Ade-Barn-Door said. It's like Clockender put it, he's deluded. If Barça, Milan and Madrid wanted him, WTF is he doing at Citeh then?

And the nerve of even mentioning Fabregas, as if he had the same class. When the truth is he's just another chump with no charisma.
 
Held who ransom?

Do you mean RVP taking a whole year to sign a flipping contract?

He got a pay rise because he deserved one.

Anybody want to guess who made this comment about Barca?

"Which player would not like to play for a team like that at the moment?
"They are probably the best team that I have seen play in history and I have a lot friends there who are always telling me great things.
"Of course, you feel envy in a healthy way because of the way they play football.
"Everyone's dream would be to play in a team like this."


Ade also said countless time on video, that he wants to stay at arsenal and pay the club back for what they did for him.

Even after the loss to Manure in the CL.

On ATVO Arsene said that Ade did not get the right support that's why his performance was poor.

If the fans believe they have not played a big part in Ade leaving they are lying to themselves.

We would have beaten Chelsea at stamflood bridge if it wasn't for Ade, Wouldn't have been in the CL semifinal if it wasn't for ADe. The man did significant thing in a 'bad' season and scored 16 goals.

Yet we crucified, all his prior hardwork irrelevent
 
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Blaccat he was earning 80 grand a week and his performances last season were nothing short of shocking, the 2 Man Utd semi-finals being a case in point. He engineered this move and the fact he has gone to Man City (those footballing heavyweights) speak for itself. He betrayed us in the summer of 2008 and I for one am glad he has gone.

I will leave it to Arseblog to sum it up:

Oh dear, it would have been nice if Emmanuel Adebayor had just gone to Man City, accepted graciously that his Arsenal career was over because of his own actions, and just shut up. Sadly, the average Premier League footballer is about as predictable as the sun coming up in the morning and setting at night. He's had a fair bit to say and it's typically deluded stuff.

Firstly he has a little pop at the fans, saying:

When a player plays well, clubs come in for him. I scored 30 goals for Arsenal two seasons ago and it was not my fault that Milan, or Barcelona or Real Madrid wanted to buy me. The fans never understood that and I cannot understand why the fans went after me.

Ok, so we accept that a player who plays well for a big club might attract the attention of other big clubs. Not a problem at all. That is, as they say, par for the course. What you shouldn't do in those circumstances though is talk about how great it would be to sign for Barcelona, passing off the comments with 'I am an Arsenal player for now but who knows in football?' style crap.

Don't, just after the season ends, go to Barcelona, give an interview to El Mundo talking about how you'd love to play with Thierry Henry again and don't let them take a picture of you holding a copy of the newspaper grinning like a Chesire cat.

Don't have your agent talk time and time again about Milan and important clubs and offers and how you have to prepare for your retirement at the age of 24. Don't, months later, talk about how Milan is Beyonce and how much you fancy Beyonce, making Arsenal out to be the Susan Boyle of football.

So while it's not his fault that clubs wanted to buy him he has to accept that he and his agent encouraged them. They then used that interest to negotiate a better contract at Arsenal having just been given a new contract the summer before. Trying to get the best deal for yourself is one thing, holding the club over a barrel to do it is another.

And the fans understood perfectly what he had done, how he had behaved. If he can't understand why fans felt betrayed by what he had done then he's deluded. The worst part is I genuinely believe he doesn't think he's done anything wrong. In the BBC interview as well he said the same thing.

But in reality what kind of a hard time did he get? A few jeers at the Emirates Cup last pre-season and his inadvisable kissing of the badge after scoring a penalty against Madrid certainly didn't help but I think the vast majority of fans were happy to let him know what they thought of his summer antics and then that was that. As I said on this blog back then the best way for him to win the fans back was to work hard and score goals. For a time it seemed that was what he was doing but it quickly became clear running and working hard were beneath him - culminating in those ghastly semi-final/end of season showings.

For me the bottom line is blaming the fans is a cheap shot and cowardly. There were other players who got more stick than him last season. Nicklas Bendtner, for example, went through a period of a couple of months where he couldn't trap wind, let alone a football. Every time he misplaced a pass there were audible groans and moans and jeers and the grief he got was, in my opinion, far worse than anything directed at Adebayor. Yet he got his head down, worked hard and made things better for himself. He didn't go bleating and crying to Garth Crooks.

Adebayor goes on to say:

I was in the same position as Cesc. Every summer Barcelona tried to sign him, but the fans never turned on Cesc.

Is he really comparing himself to Cesc? A young man who has been at the club since he was 16, who has represented us brilliantly, and who, despite the vagaries of the Spanish press, about whom we know so much, has categorically denied any stories about him moving back home almost as soon as they emerged.

The reason fans never turned on Cesc is because he never acted like Adebayor.

In his first interview with Man City Adebayor claimed the move was not about money. Today he says:

I know a lot of people will be saying, ‘He went for the money’. But I would like to hear any man, if he is honest, say he would refuse it if he was earning £10 and someone offered him £30.

Fair enough, at least he's honest about that. Now. The reason he went to City is because Wenger didn't want him anymore. And because they were offering him a ridiculously large amount of money for a player of his ability. It wasn't because the fans turned on him, not because AC Milan wanted to buy him. If Wenger had wanted to keep Adebayor he'd have done exactly that, we'd have seen a couple of articles on the official site about how last season was poor but the next one would be better, blah blah blah.

His claims about Arsenal needing the money might have some validity, we'll see. It might well be a case that Arsene and Ivan Gazidis have sat down, identified where they need to strengthen the squad and said 'Well, if we sell Adebayor that gives us £X to spend on a midfielder/defender' etc. The main point though is that if Wenger wanted to keep the player he would have kept him.

And even if we did need to sell a player to raise funds for a signing or two to make us stronger, what's the problem with that? Is it not better for a club to live within its means, to operate like any normal business would, instead of blindly borrowing? Of course it's down to the manager to use that money now to make us stronger.

It's not at all surprising it's ended this way. There's a tremendous sense of bitterness from Adebayor, his vastly improved pay-packet is cushioning the blow of taking a drop in terms of the stature of the club he's playing for. But the sheer unwillingness to accept any of the responsibility for what happened and to point the fingers at the fans and the manager shows what kind of a character he really is.

When he sold him I was of the opinion it was the right move and we'd be better off for it. This has only reinforced that. And that, my good old friends, is about the last thing I've got to say about him. We play City away on Sept 12th, I'm sure the away fans will be in good voice that day.
 
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Henry's brilliance was one which increased after he left. Watching video of him now...just incredible. The skill, pace and utter, sheer arrogance of the man was incroyable.
 
YoungGun_UK said:
To be fair Henry gets a lot of stick from Gooners aswell.
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yea for all the wrong reasons though. people was just gutted that he left all of a sudden. once the departure of Henry sank inside peoples head they began to realize what a legend he is and took back teh negetivity they had said about him.

im one of those people who was upset when he left but realized he did what he had to do and did ALOT for us in the 8 years he played for us.

He is also constantly showing his affection to arsenal
""But I hope they can win the league and win everything they can, that's always my feeling about my old club. "
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This guy is a true legend and Adebaywhore is just a fucking piece of shit and tbh, i have never rated him as a world class player even when he scored 30 goals for us.

i knew it was a fluke and im right so far. RVP has always been our best striker since Henry left IMO.
 
The same Arseblogger who wouldn't mind having Flamini back, after he literally spat in our faces. Making Arsene look like a complete idiot and proving that money is all he cares about. That same Flamini

Kolo Toure put in a transfer request didn't he?

Him and Gallas have cost the team so much in the past year and half, yet they are still Arsenal players. No big frenzy

Why those it surprise anyone that Ade wouldn't mind a move to Milan, if it were to happen. Just like the club forced him to City.

A club that shits in your hands if your contract was to expire just before your 30th birthday.

Look at Pires, that's how we treat how legends
 
Hold on right THERE!

The same Henry that was almost certainly going to leave before the 2006 Champions league final? but changed his mind after we lost?

After flirting with a move to Barca? Then he said it's Arsenal for Life

Then ran off next season?

The same Henry that made it so blatant that he wanted a move to Barca that the club couldn't make any really money off him.

The guy fucking LIED!

How do you people forget these things?

I appreciate what he did for the club but FUCK him
 
Arseblog is good - just because you don't agree with things he says, doesn't mean you just stop reading something. I disagree with my mother alot of the time, but I would never not see her again :LOL:

Basically Adebayor got too big for his boots. He had one great season and wanted to be on the same wages as Henry! Henry had several outstanding seasons and earned his money, he is an Arsenal legend. Adebayor had one season and thought he could live off of that and that earned him instant respect.....bollucks.

Flamini didn't shit on the club at all. We wouldn't pay what he wanted granted, but what he wanted wasn't that much compared to how important he was to us. He spent years as backup and then proved himself, then we were not ready to give him the wages he deserved. So he went to one of his boyhood teams, one of the greatest in the world. I don't blame him for that at all. He didn't piss about he just went.

Henry did a bit of pissing around and it left a bit of a sour tast. But I don't blame him for leaving. You can tell he loves the club still. What he did for the club when he was here, far outways the shit that happened when he left. Also we came to realise he was keeping others from flourashing, which made it easier to let him go.

Adebayor is one of those players that allows himself to have a god complex. He thinks he is alot better than he is. I wouldn't be suprised if he did shit at Man City and then sulked and then went off after a year. He definately won't be number 1 striker there, which will hurt his ego.

All in all he is a complete cock and mouthing off about the fans afterwards just shows what a cock he is.
 
No he twisted Ade's words to make him look bad.

And Ade was an Arsenal player at the time.

lol You guys are unreal, god complex?

Did Ade say he wanted the same wages as Henry?

Please show me where he made this statement.

Also you should remember english isn't his first language.

I am not a big fan of Ade but I never felt he was acting too big, you guys are taking 1+1 and making 5.

The guy was nothing but humble, never said anything bad about a team mate or the club.

Even went he had the argument with Nick, I really can not see what you guy choose to go all crazy about.


Also you guys have forgotten that Henry said he was leaving because David Dein left and Arsene had not renewed his contract yet.

How are you forgetting these things.

Now we have lost a proven striker, an aerial threat that adds a different dimension to our game. Do not tell me Bendnter or Chamakh.

Bendnter like ball to feet, he has always been like that since I started watching at reserve games 3/4 years ago. Now he will waste our season learning new shit.

Chamakh is lightweight, fucking pussy got bullied at the cup of nations.

Huntelear? really Arsene will waste 15m+ on an extra striker, when he thinks we have 5 strikers.

1 step forward two steps back, Eduardo can't play 40+ games this season
 
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Blaccat said:
No way, that fool was given a hero's exit
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Have you just called Arsenal's all-time leading scorer a fool? Did I get it straight? 226 goals, mate. It isn't for anyone, let alone fucking Adebyewhore.

He "earned" his pay rise by threatening to leave the club just one season after he signed a contract. And afterwards he didn't show commitment and hard work as we've seen it.

To me, things are as simple as that: sell an unmotivated striker for 25M and sign another who's hungry for success for 15M. I still hope to see Huntelaar at the club, cause leaving an unproven striker like Bendtner without competition would be a mistake.

That would leave 10M for Arsene to spend on our so needed DMF. With 2 signings like this, Arsenal would be just fine.
 
Blaccat said:
No he twisted Ade's words to make him look bad.

And Ade was an Arsenal player at the time.

lol You guys are unreal, god complex?

Did Ade say he wanted the same wages as Henry?

Please show me where he made this statement.

Also you should remember english isn't his first language.

I am not a big fan of Ade but I never felt he was acting too big, you guys are taking 1+1 and making 5.

The guy was nothing but humble, never said anything bad about a team mate or the club.

Even went he had the argument with Nick, I really can not see what you guy choose to go all crazy about.


Also you guys have forgotten that Henry said he was leaving because David Dein left and Arsene had not renewed his contract yet.

How are you forgetting these things.

Now we have lost a proven striker, an aerial threat that adds a different dimension to our game. Do not tell me Bendnter or Chamakh.

Bendnter like ball to feet, he has always been like that since I started watching at reserve games 3/4 years ago. Now he will waste our season learning new shit.

Chamakh is lightweight, fucking pussy got bullied at the cup of nations.

Huntelear? really Arsene will waste 15m+ on an extra striker, when he thinks we have 5 strikers.

1 step forward two steps back, Eduardo can't play 40+ games this season
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It was either his agents or him that said that he was worth the same amount the Henry was being paid before he left. I remember reading it at the time. I could search around for it......but I'm not :PP

What Henry did wasn't right, but he served his time and is an Arsenal legend. So as I said it left a bitter taste, but it can't take away anything he did for us.

Adebayor scored 30 in one season - fantastic, he couldn't do it the next season. That stands him apart from all of the other world class strikers. So until he could prove he was a world class striker then he shouldn't demand the same wages as an Arsenal legend.

We gave him stick at the beginning of the season, because he deserved it, but we didn't keep going on. It was only near the end of the season when he didn't show up, is when we started slating him again and rightly so. he showed no passion or fight and for somebody who received two substantial wage rises in two years running, you would expect that. when you start bleating on about getting paid lots of money, you need to show why you deserve that money and he didn't.

If he was really humble etc he wouldn't have said what he said about the fans after and admitted to things he did and not act all innocent.

Anyway we will have to agree to disagree on this subject as comparing Adebayor to either Fabregas or Henry is just not comparable in my eyes.
 
Unmotivated..lol

Funny how you guys and Arseblogger have failed to realise that Arsene Wenger also blamed the fans for Ade's deep in form.

Did you miss the part where Arsene said "he did not get the support he needed"

And maybe because it looked like thaat needed support wasn't going to come, the club decided to cash in.

Oh yeah, that fool can choke on one.

"Greatest 50 Players

Arsenal's fans have spoken. The final list of 50 players and their individual rankings were determined by tens of thousands of votes from Arsenal fans from across the world.

1. Thierry Henry
5. Patrick Vieira
25. Ashley Cole
29. Nicolas Anelka"


:FAIL::FAIL::FAIL:
 
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Blaccat said:
Unmotivated..lol

Funny how you guys and Arseblogger have failed to realise that Arsene Wenger also blamed the fans for Ade's deep in form.

Did you miss the part where Arsene said "he did not get the support he needed"

And maybe because it looked like thaat needed support wasn't going to come, the club decided to cash in.

Oh yeah, that fool can choke on one.

"Greatest 50 Players

Arsenal's fans have spoken. The final list of 50 players and their individual rankings were determined by tens of thousands of votes from Arsenal fans from across the world.

1. Thierry Henry
5. Patrick Vieira
25. Ashley Cole
29. Nicolas Anelka"


:FAIL::FAIL::FAIL:
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Arseblogger did actually mention it the other day :DD

Wenger believes that you should support your players no matter what. Adebayor needs to be admired and pampered and his ego massaged. He didn't get it so his form dipped. That doesn't mean the fans were wrong at all. It comes down to the fact that working class people spend their hard earned money on the club, thats how the club gets its money. When a player gets a huge pay rise and then doesn't deliver, then they have every right to show their anger.

We need a player that doesn't sulk when the fans get on their back, we need a player that wants to prove that he has heart and is motivated to play and wants to change the fans opinion. Adebayor didn't want to do that, he demands for his arse to be licked before he would perform, that wasn't going to happen.

Of course the reason Adebayor is being sold because of his relationship with the fans, but that doesn't mean it was the fans fault that that relationship went wrong.

That list was put out a while ago now and I think it is a big fuck up. I don't know any of my Arsenal friends or others that would put Ashley in the top hundred or even Anelka. So god knows who they asked.
 
we support the club and anyone who puts his heart out for our club week in week out and adebayor wasnt so why the fuck should we support that prick? Bendter has been shit yet we still support him. Eboue has been even worse yet some support him too.

At the end of the day, if you show some desire to play for the club and not sulk like a baby and act like a fucking greedy cunt then you will be respected and supported no matter how shit you are on the field
 
Bendtner has not been shit jonney, that's media spun bollocks that others follow. 15 goals from a 21 year old is pretty good by any standards, let alone someone who gets criticised and booed by his 'supporters'. I'd hardly call what he gets off you 'support'.

And Eboue hasn't even been that bad either and he got booed so bad his confidence couldnt get any lower and Wenger had to bring him off not long after he'd come on as a sub.

There is 100% a problem here in my opinion, whether it's the mentality of the players Wenger is buying or the booing and lack of support shown by the fans, but there is a problem. Whatever the situation, 9 times out of 10, a player who gets booed and shouted at at matches, slagged off on messsage boards, on phone ins and in the papers is not going to get better because of it, he'll lose more confidence and get worse.

Footballer's generally have fragile confidence anyway and as fans you're meant to get behind your team.
 
I agree about eboue. i never understood why most arsenal fans booed him. tbh i have always rated him has a very decent player. he was our best RB at one point before sagna came along and tbh, sagna is only slightly better then eboue anyway.

About bendter, yes he has had an OK season but my main point is that we shouldnt slag off a player regardless of how crap a player may be, we should support them but how can we support a player that is just taking us all for a ride and not showing any heart or desire to be with us aka adebaoyor?
 
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Bendtner has not been shit jonney, that's media spun bollocks that others follow. 15 goals from a 21 year old is pretty good by any standards, let alone someone who gets criticised and booed by his 'supporters'. I'd hardly call what he gets off you 'support'.

And Eboue hasn't even been that bad either and he got booed so bad his confidence couldnt get any lower and Wenger had to bring him off not long after he'd come on as a sub.

There is 100% a problem here in my opinion, whether it's the mentality of the players Wenger is buying or the booing and lack of support shown by the fans, but there is a problem. Whatever the situation, 9 times out of 10, a player who gets booed and shouted at at matches, slagged off on messsage boards, on phone ins and in the papers is not going to get better because of it, he'll lose more confidence and get worse.

Footballer's generally have fragile confidence anyway and as fans you're meant to get behind your team.
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We don't get on players backs if they are committed and work hard.

When Eboue had some very awful games. He thought that diving about and not playing for the team and being individual was the way to go. He played absolutely shocking in that one game and alot of fans booed him which was dreadful and if you ask most fans they would say that that was very wrong. But since then Eboue has in my opinion, been a much better player and has had some very good performances.

Bendtner gets slagged off by alot of our fans, but I wouldn't say it is most fans. But he is getting better and better and I think he will come good in the next couple of years. I actually really like him. But Bendtner has got lots of stick, but he comes back stronger and stronger and is earning lots of respect for it.

But I don't care what anybody says, if players are getting paid ridiculous sums of money probably 3 times more a WEEK than the average person earns in a year! and also asks for much more without showing why and then plays absolutely shit after getting paid even more. Then the supporters have every right to show that they are not going to accept it.

Players should man up and start thinking why the supporters are not being nice to them and do something about it. Not sulk and be a fucking baby about it.

If I was at work and just got a £5000per year wage rise. Then I did 20% less work and then in a couple of months my boss called me in and gave me a bollucking. I wouldn't then go into my office and throw all my pens over the desk, have a hissy fit and then do even less work. I would do my all to prove to my boss that the pay rise I got I deserved and that I am good at what I do.

It is a bit rich to say you should just pay these people millions a year and then support them no matter what?! its ridiculous!

If you show heart and desire to play for us - even if you were shit we will love you. Eboue is showing he is putting heart into his performances and is learning from his mistakes, he is going up in everybodies estimations. Adebayor should have done the same.
 
wow !I missed alot welcome blaacat I see you don`t follow like sheep :P I`m dismay w/ Sunderland landing a good valuable player Cana. I know what players think come in a smaller club play like a beast and top clubs will buy. Im sure Valencia is the bargaining tool by setting the example.Wigan to MUtD
 
BobbyBox said:
Arseblogger did actually mention it the other day :DD

Wenger believes that you should support your players no matter what. Adebayor needs to be admired and pampered and his ego massaged. He didn't get it so his form dipped. That doesn't mean the fans were wrong at all. It comes down to the fact that working class people spend their hard earned money on the club, thats how the club gets its money. When a player gets a huge pay rise and then doesn't deliver, then they have every right to show their anger.

We need a player that doesn't sulk when the fans get on their back, we need a player that wants to prove that he has heart and is motivated to play and wants to change the fans opinion. Adebayor didn't want to do that, he demands for his arse to be licked before he would perform, that wasn't going to happen.

Of course the reason Adebayor is being sold because of his relationship with the fans, but that doesn't mean it was the fans fault that that relationship went wrong.

That list was put out a while ago now and I think it is a big fuck up. I don't know any of my Arsenal friends or others that would put Ashley in the top hundred or even Anelka. So god knows who they asked.
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But those people might as well flush the money down the toilet, if they are willing to sit in the stadium with their arms crossed and whenever they feel bothered they choose to boo a player.

This is my equation

Fans + Ade Song = Ade scored goals = Team win more matches = Greater chance for a Trophy

Fans booed Ade = We were trophyless

Trophies = Value for money

Ade got high of the fans in 07/08 but in 08/09 withdrawal set in.

And withdrawal is a bitch.

I am not saying the blame falls entirely on the fans but we have to accept we played a part. So did he
 
Blaccat said:
But those people might as well flush the money down the toilet, if they are willing to sit in the stadium with their arms crossed and whenever they feel bothered they choose to boo a player.

This is my equation

Fans + Ade Song = Ade scored goals = Team win more matches = Greater chance for a Trophy

Fans booed Ade = We were trophyless

Trophies = Value for money

Ade got high of the fans in 07/08 but in 08/09 withdrawal set in.

And withdrawal is a bitch.

I am not saying the blame falls entirely on the fans but we have to accept we played a part. So did he
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wrong. re read bobs post:YAWN:
 
Blaccat said:
But those people might as well flush the money down the toilet, if they are willing to sit in the stadium with their arms crossed and whenever they feel bothered they choose to boo a player.

This is my equation

Fans + Ade Song = Ade scored goals = Team win more matches = Greater chance for a Trophy

Fans booed Ade = We were trophyless

Trophies = Value for money

Ade got high of the fans in 07/08 but in 08/09 withdrawal set in.

And withdrawal is a bitch.

I am not saying the blame falls entirely on the fans but we have to accept we played a part. So did he
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of course when people boo or say someone is shit etc it will bring someone down. But a strong willed person will question themselves and why it is happening and try and correct it. Not just stagnate and demand to be praised no matter what and don't accept any of the criticism coming your way.

Its a vicious circle anyway. If Adebaypr showed heart and desire and played well, then no body would be on his back in the first place. But if we didn't show our unhappiness all the time maybe he would have played better. But we didn't, he was weak willed and sulked. So we got on his back more and so on and so on etc etc

Anyway I feel like I am repeating myself over and over, so I will stop there :DD

Oh yeah and it goes and says something about someones character when they try and unsettle some of our other team mates, after they have left. Like Adebayor has been doing with Toure.
 
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