Arsenal Thread

Bobby, i told u almost everything i know about this matter (wich is also everything everybody outside england knows, as european media usually talk about this stuff, unlike british media).
if after everything i wrote, u still don't consider this such a disgusting and unfair policy, then there's nothing else i can say, i guess we'll just keep disagreeing on this matter :))

if u think it's fair that theese kids just say "fuck off" to the people who spent time and money to teach them football, then there's nothing else i could possibly add.

but just a few things to point out.
u said "if it was stealing it would be illegal". well it is illegal. the point is that is impossible to prove those jobs the parents suddenly get are fake.
but as a matter of fact, this is not legal!

u said Platini should act properly. that he has some responsabilities..... well he has some responsabilities towards reggina, parma, atalanta, empoli aswell.
and when parma's president says "we spent 10 millions euros in the last 5 years to raise our own football players, coz we don't have enough money to buy them. and somebody else stole the fruits of our job right before we could sign those guys. FIFA and UEFA must do something about this, coz otherwise, there will be no point in having a youth school anymore"
... then Platini Must do something in order to protect those youth schools and to defend those club's rights.
try to look at it from this point of view.

the fact that the those kids parents are looking for money or not has no importance at all, and my assuptions aren't based on that.
i think they're greedy, but even if it wouldn't be just a matter of money, this still wouldn't change the fact that what wenger does is not allowed by FIFA and that the only reason why he can get away with it, is because the dirty trick he uses can't be proved on a court.
and this is a fact. not an assumption.

however Bobby, i respect your view (even if i badly disagre with it). my only aim was to explain this situation to u and all the other people who read this thread. to give u those info that the blindfolded, biased and chauvinist british media won't ever give u.
how to judge this situation it's up to u :))

good luck for today's match guys ;)):))


Just as our media is biased - in the same notion so European media can be. Anything can be reported on in a certain way to create a certain reaction. European media obviously reports it the way it does to get the reaction you have now. We all know aswell that England is not liked by many countries in Europe - so opinions in other European countries can be heavily biased aswell.

But It was reported in the English papers how Arsenal got its young players. You forget that there are alot of reporters that hate Arsenal and support other teams. So they do not miss a chance to point out our shortcomings or anything controversial we are doing. The English media is more than happy to knock a club if it sells papers.

You say Platini has responsibilities to Reggina, parma etc. I totally agree and thats what I was saying. He should do something about it. He shouldn't slag off managers or other clubs. He should get off his arse and do something constructive. He has a responsibilty to every club that is being mistreated - but he also has to be responsible with his actions. The essence of what he was saying was right. But the way he said it was completely wrong and the way he singled out Arsene disgusting!

I also don't think it is fair about the kids just leaving their clubs. Thats why I suggested other ways of compensation, which I think would go a long way to easing a hot prospect leaving a club. Or the FA acting and looking at the situation and improving it.

I too respect your opinions and views - the basis of what you are saying is true.
 
You say Platini has responsibilities to Reggina, parma etc. I totally agree and thats what I was saying. He should do something about it.

well the easiest way to solve this problem would be if those british clubs would stop moving around FIFA rules and start acting properly, waiting this kids to become professionals and then negotiating with the other clubs (as any other club does in europe).

Just as our media is biased - in the same notion so European media can be. Anything can be reported on in a certain way to create a certain reaction. European media obviously reports it the way it does to get the reaction you have now.

definitely, but when EVERYBODY points its finger at some british clubs for their attitude, then u should start questioning wheter they're all wrong or if the british club's attitude is really to blame, don't u think? ;))


We all know aswell that England is not liked by many countries in Europe.
trust me mate, this is wrong. this is what every nation says. italians says that everybody in europe hates them, french says the same, aswell as germans, spanish, portuguese, etc....

platini came here 1 months ago and had a go on all the issues of italian footie.
but u know what, the day after the italian newspaper wrote he was right, and remarked platini's points.
talking about objective and serious press :DD

however it was a nice chat bobby :)):beer:
 
well the easiest way to solve this problem would be if those british clubs would stop moving around FIFA rules and start acting properly, waiting this kids to become professionals and then negotiating with the other clubs (as any other club does in europe).

As I said before - If it was the other way around, I am certain the other European clubs would do exactly the same. Just because they can't doesn't give them the Moral high ground.


definitely, but when EVERYBODY points its finger at some british clubs for their attitude, then u should start questioning wheter they're all wrong or if the british club's attitude is really to blame, don't u think? ;))

Who is Everybody? All the countries in europe?

trust me mate, this is wrong. this is what every nation says. italians says that everybody in europe hates them, french says the same, aswell as germans, spanish, portuguese, etc....

Maybe....Maybe not :DD

platini came here 1 months ago and had a go on all the issues of italian footie.
but u know what, the day after the italian newspaper wrote he was right, and remarked platini's points.
talking about objective and serious press :DD

Did he single out one manager and be a dick?

If he said what he said differently and didn't attack anybody. Then I am sure that everybody would have agreed with him.

however it was a nice chat bobby :)):beer:

It was nice :DD
 
Who is Everybody? All the countries in europe?
well i can't speak german, dutch, danish or sweden :DD.... but as for spanish, italian, and french media, yes, they all have the same opinion about it..... and i guess it's pretty much the same about other countries aswell.


Did he single out one manager and be a dick?
he definitely went too far with wenger, but it's because he has been warning arsenal man utd, and chelsea many, many times before, and still they're keep acting like this (the last episode concerns Marcello Trotta, a hot prospect of napoli's youth school, who joined man city for free http://www.premiershiplatest.com/news/napoli-furious-over-marcello-trotta-s-ma-5511586.html).
even johansson kept warning british clubs about this issue, when he was in charge....
.... as i said before, when so many people says u're doing something wrong, u should start questioning if everybody hates u, or if u really did something wrong ;))

however u guys better winning today. i've got serious money on arsenal getting 3 points today :DD
 
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well i can't speak german, dutch, danish or sweden :DD.... but as for spanish, italian, and french media, yes, they all have the same opinion about it..... and i guess it's pretty much the same about other countries aswell.



he definitely went too far with wenger, but it's because he has been warning arsenal man utd, and chelsea many, many times before, and still they're keep acting like this (the last episode concerns Marcello Trotta, a hot prospect of napoli's youth school, who joined man city for free http://www.premiershiplatest.com/news/napoli-furious-over-marcello-trotta-s-ma-5511586.html).
even johansson kept warning british clubs about this issue, when he was in charge....
.... as i said before, when so many people says u're doing something wrong, u should start questioning if everybody hates u, or if u really did something wrong ;))

however u guys better winning today. i've got arsenal winning on my bet accumulator :DD

I agree it is not right presently and something should be done about it. But Arsenal and others are always going to take advantage of the situation while it is still possible. whether it right or wrong.

Anyway - I hope we win aswell and we really should do If we want to win the league. But Hull have been playing really well. But us being at home should be a huge advantage.
 
I agree it is not right presently and something should be done about it. But Arsenal and others are always going to take advantage of the situation while it is still possible. whether it right or wrong.

fair enough. i'm pretty sure that....
if the italian rules would allow it...
if the italian clubs would have the money british clubs can count on......
and if our own youth schools wouldn't be such and endless source of great talents :DD....

..some italian clubs would do the same thing aswell.

Anyway - I hope we win aswell and we really should do If we want to win the league. But Hull have been playing really well. But us being at home should be a huge advantage.
any idea about arsenal starting line up?:))
 
fair enough. i'm pretty sure that....
if the italian rules would allow it...
if the italian clubs would have the money british clubs can count on......
and if our own youth schools wouldn't be such and endless source of great talents :DD....

..some italian clubs would do the same thing aswell.


any idea about arsenal starting line up?:))

Don't know - I think it is a game where we can still rest a couple and play a couple from the Carling cup game.

Hopefully Vela plays some part and Bendtner.
 
Now i'm depressed!!

If we can't beat teams like Hull at home - we have no chance of the league.

Why do Arsenal do this?!!!!
 
oh dear, you should of won it in the first half, too much pissing around in front of goal really.
 
wtf happened there?

watched the first 55-60 minutes then decided to stick the ps3 on, when i turned the match off arsenal were all over them and it looked like they'd go on and win by 2 or 3 goals, just checked the final score and couldn't believe it
 
Excellent PLayed by Arsenal.....nice fucking way for Wenger to celebrate his 12 years at Arsenal tomorrow. Keep going like this and for sure we'll be having the treble. I'm gifting Wenger some kids as a present for finishing 12 years so that he'll develop them and make them play the same way how we played today!! Congratulations!!! WELL PLAYED!!!
 
You usually get 3 games at the most to lose - if you want to become champions. We have already lost 2!!!

We still have Man U, Chelsea and Liverpool to play twice each and of course the two against Spurs. I can't see us losing just one more game all season. But Hopefully we don't lose anymore. Come on Arsenal!!!!!
 
PULL THE TRIGGER LADS, HOLY SHIT; THERE WAS ONE POINT WHERE EBOUE WAS CLEAN THRU ON GOAL ONE ON ONE AND HE DECIDED TO PASS IT OFF, IN THE BOX!!!! CONGRATS TO HULL ON THEIR FAMOUS VICTORY, FAIR PLAY TO THEM.
 
Out of fucking 25 chances ON Goal, if u can hit only 1, then whats the whole use of playing with such a team and that too at home, against a team which came from Championship.
The main thing which irritates me is not becoz we lost the whole game, its becoz, Hull did not have any kind of proper attack at all, we dominated complete 90 minutes and still we fucking lost and that too at our HOME. I dont have any hopes against FC Porto at all now!!
And Wenger did a very very wise choice by removing Walcott. Couldnt he remove that Black Peter Crouch Adebayor instead!!
 
I wonder if this is good or bad for us (hull). We are playing you next tuesday at the emirates.
Haven't seen you play this year yet, overall how is your team? Player to be worried about? :)) Do you attack more from the wings or the center? Prefer the counter or continuous attack? Do you leaves yourself open or do you close your back?
Like I said I haven't seen you play this year so I don't know what to expect.
 
expect to get hammer since we lost last time we went on a 3-0,4-0,3-1 run so I expect a lot of attacking :DD so your counter-attacks will be there for porto
 
Is the fact they won't pull the trigger down to Wenger, do you think he tells them no shooting form outside the box or before the tenth pass?...

I dont understand I feel so gutted I lost sleep I have a bit of the shakes and it`s only footy why am I feeling so depress ? anyhow not sure nick we always found the net usually more than 2 goals too, I wish Ade disallow goal would of accounted
 
I think you'll thump Porto. Wouldn't read much into Hull - every big team has days like that. As a United supporter we somehow manage to avoid the reputation of being profligate, but having watched both us and you - we're just as bad! Without Ronaldo in the team we try to pass it in, and it just doesn't work against teams playing an 4-6-0. Think both our squads could learn from good ole Fat Frank - if you don't have shot you can't score.

Speaking of that type of player - where the hell is Rosicksy?
 
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