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vik_sohonie
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Heres why i think PES5 is altogether a better game..
Firstly, with regard to teams and players - when i play with arsenal or chelsea for example, i actually feel a large difference in the style of play and i feel like im playing arsenal football or chelsea football. With arsenal, a stock goal is often a killer thru pass from midfield (often from fabregas) which curls around the defender and reaches the feet of henry only for the french striker to tuck it away in typical henry fashion. Such is the case in the premiership week in and week out - thats classic arsenal football. When playing with chelsea, i could hit players on the break because my wingers would have run into the space the attacking fullbacks would have made and one killer thru ball from john terry out of the box and joe cole or robben would be released to wreak havoc on their respective wing, again - this is chelsea football at its finest. I dont see this in winning eleven 10 at all. A thru pass never releases a player, it either just goes straight to his feet without him being released into space or gets intercepted (95% of the time).
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doesnt have the same effect anymore, an effect whicch was fantastic. The Same goes with Milan, anybody who watches the Champ. Lge. in the last two seasons knows that a large majority of AC Milan's goals have involved clarence seedorf delivering an immaculate pass to free shevchenko, yes i kno he isnt on Milan anymore, but you cant do this in winning eleven. Seedorf will never deliver a cutting thru ball which releases Gilardino or Inzaghi for them to "tuck it away" you CANT TUCK IT AWAY IN WINNING ELeVEN 10!!! Basically what im saying is, the through balls in WE10 do NOT disect defenses.
Secondly, ive made this point before, WE10 has ruined defending, alot of ppl on this site argue that now defending has becoming a skill which you have to learn so its more rewarding. I disagree, i feel defending has been something which the computer has the upperhand, i remember playing a game England v Portugal where i was in box with rooney ready to strike it and two defenders came from BEHIND me and both slide tackled me in perfect unicen (first of all no human player can do this which demonstrates the non-realistic nature of WE10) and somehow they both got the ball, no foul called... excellent defending? i think not, i call it something else (but i wont use the word coz its considered blasphemy on any PES forum). Also, the computer has control of 4 defenders at any given time, no human player can control of 4 defenders who close u down simultaneously. The whole point of playing the computer is to simulate gameplay against a natural opponent if im not mistaken not some uber god-like team which manages to use player of 75 stamina to muscle the ball with ease from a player with 97 stamina (strange isnt it??). PES5 had EXCELLENT defending. here is a perfect example - say you are playing chelsea v arsenal and ljungberg is breakdown the right wing being marked by del horno (chelsea LB) and henry is breaking down the middle being marked by john terry, you could hold down
to close down ljunberg and if he managed to get a pass off you could hold down 
for terry to place pressure on henry. The ability to decide when to close down which player reflected the ability of the person playing PES5 and the success of such a decision reflected the skill of the defender (e.g. John Terry). In WE10 i feel stats dont count for anything. Kolo Toure, an excellent defender, will get muscled out of the ball before he even has the chance to clear by podolski (who is a good player but come on we all kno who would win that battle). Oh and defensive headers dont work in WE10, they just dont, sometimes the ball hits the player on the other side of the head and goes the complete of the direction of the header. And the game is HIGHLY glitched, I was playing a game yesterday where a ball went thru my player only for the opposing strike to latch onto it and score, i watched the replay the ball graphic actually went THROUGH my defender, like a graphic glitch.
Finally, Long shots. They were perfect in PES 5, if you had space, timing, a skilled player with shot power and accuracy, you drive the ball in from 25-30 yds on your good days. In WE10, they just hit someone in the always overcrowded box. Sometimes i wonder if Konami scowers in the internet and reads PES forums like this one to understand what the FANS WANT! I kno some of you love it, you know what ill say that the multiplayer on WE10 is far more addictive than PES5, but the single player on Winning 10 - GARBAGE.
If you've taken the time to read all that, thank you. hope to hear why the rest of you hate/love either title. Peace
Firstly, with regard to teams and players - when i play with arsenal or chelsea for example, i actually feel a large difference in the style of play and i feel like im playing arsenal football or chelsea football. With arsenal, a stock goal is often a killer thru pass from midfield (often from fabregas) which curls around the defender and reaches the feet of henry only for the french striker to tuck it away in typical henry fashion. Such is the case in the premiership week in and week out - thats classic arsenal football. When playing with chelsea, i could hit players on the break because my wingers would have run into the space the attacking fullbacks would have made and one killer thru ball from john terry out of the box and joe cole or robben would be released to wreak havoc on their respective wing, again - this is chelsea football at its finest. I dont see this in winning eleven 10 at all. A thru pass never releases a player, it either just goes straight to his feet without him being released into space or gets intercepted (95% of the time).
+ doesnt have the same effect anymore, an effect whicch was fantastic. The Same goes with Milan, anybody who watches the Champ. Lge. in the last two seasons knows that a large majority of AC Milan's goals have involved clarence seedorf delivering an immaculate pass to free shevchenko, yes i kno he isnt on Milan anymore, but you cant do this in winning eleven. Seedorf will never deliver a cutting thru ball which releases Gilardino or Inzaghi for them to "tuck it away" you CANT TUCK IT AWAY IN WINNING ELeVEN 10!!! Basically what im saying is, the through balls in WE10 do NOT disect defenses. Secondly, ive made this point before, WE10 has ruined defending, alot of ppl on this site argue that now defending has becoming a skill which you have to learn so its more rewarding. I disagree, i feel defending has been something which the computer has the upperhand, i remember playing a game England v Portugal where i was in box with rooney ready to strike it and two defenders came from BEHIND me and both slide tackled me in perfect unicen (first of all no human player can do this which demonstrates the non-realistic nature of WE10) and somehow they both got the ball, no foul called... excellent defending? i think not, i call it something else (but i wont use the word coz its considered blasphemy on any PES forum). Also, the computer has control of 4 defenders at any given time, no human player can control of 4 defenders who close u down simultaneously. The whole point of playing the computer is to simulate gameplay against a natural opponent if im not mistaken not some uber god-like team which manages to use player of 75 stamina to muscle the ball with ease from a player with 97 stamina (strange isnt it??). PES5 had EXCELLENT defending. here is a perfect example - say you are playing chelsea v arsenal and ljungberg is breakdown the right wing being marked by del horno (chelsea LB) and henry is breaking down the middle being marked by john terry, you could hold down
to close down ljunberg and if he managed to get a pass off you could hold down for terry to place pressure on henry. The ability to decide when to close down which player reflected the ability of the person playing PES5 and the success of such a decision reflected the skill of the defender (e.g. John Terry). In WE10 i feel stats dont count for anything. Kolo Toure, an excellent defender, will get muscled out of the ball before he even has the chance to clear by podolski (who is a good player but come on we all kno who would win that battle). Oh and defensive headers dont work in WE10, they just dont, sometimes the ball hits the player on the other side of the head and goes the complete of the direction of the header. And the game is HIGHLY glitched, I was playing a game yesterday where a ball went thru my player only for the opposing strike to latch onto it and score, i watched the replay the ball graphic actually went THROUGH my defender, like a graphic glitch. Finally, Long shots. They were perfect in PES 5, if you had space, timing, a skilled player with shot power and accuracy, you drive the ball in from 25-30 yds on your good days. In WE10, they just hit someone in the always overcrowded box. Sometimes i wonder if Konami scowers in the internet and reads PES forums like this one to understand what the FANS WANT! I kno some of you love it, you know what ill say that the multiplayer on WE10 is far more addictive than PES5, but the single player on Winning 10 - GARBAGE.
If you've taken the time to read all that, thank you. hope to hear why the rest of you hate/love either title. Peace
