ARGENTINA thread

Who should suceed Diego Maradona ?

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ALBICELESTE2010 said:
Well time to revive this thread. Twenty five years without a trophy. It is criminal. The country continues to produce top end talent. Well maybe aside from goalkeepers although Portau of Estudiantes is a bright hope and Axel Werner is getting plenty of football now at Huesca.

What is most upsetting is that the young players who should have been in Russia this summer are now being picked by interim manager Lionel Scaloni (because Gareca had enough of waiting for the AFA who have not got the proverbial pot to pass water in).

Lo Celso and Asascibar are two bright hopes the former who played zero minutes at the World Cup while Die Maschine was overlooked for those two midfield engines of Biglia and Mascherano.

Nicolas Tagliafico and German Pezzella are the captaincy candidates and both wonderful people off the pitch. So much youth coming through. Added to which Dybala and Icardi have a chance to claim their spots now. Ezequiel Palacios is another candidate for the midfield but he along with several other youngsters need to make the right career choices in terms of their development.

Far too many kids jump to Europe early. They don't play enough first team football at a crucial time for their development and often enough end up wasting their potential. Tagliafico is one who managed to resurrect his career after leaving Banfield moving to Murcia where he was hardly use before resurrecting himself at Independiente.

Underlying this is still the AFA and its President Claudio Tapia. It is still not fit for purpose. Tapia himself is a non descript fool who never ran anything more than a small local club in Argentina. The organization needs total reform with people who understand football development and football as a business (especially with this upcoming 2030 World Cup bid with Uruguay and Paraguay) and honest gentlemen like Zanetti, Batigol and company running it. Not shady individuals whose own interests are deemed more important than that of the Albiceleste.

I also think it's time for Messi the GOAT to hang up his boots for Argentina. For next years Copa just Kun and Otamendi should return from the older guard along with the superb Armani in goal.


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Will be missed but never forgotten. Gracias Leo.
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Time to revive this thread with this:

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Agenda against Argentina is unbelieveble, X is on fire when everytime referee whistles against Argentina's opponent. I think this type people watchs football through shorts and instagram reels, I seen they even offering money to run this agenda against Argentina.

Also Egypt's player Zico, he was true Madrista even posted trash posts back on 2020 about Messi and Barcelona.
 
jdprouz said:
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That's a foul, and the dive was obviously a dive - but that's two incidents compared to how many in the clip I shared? Two things can be true at once, that the Swiss tackle/dive there were bad (and the dive was punished), but that Argentina appear to be getting away with A LOT. (But again, I didn't see the game live.)

Even with the dive, supposedly the card shouldn't have been given due to FIFA's own VAR rules (though the rules seem pretty dumb):

 
Chris Davies said:
That's a foul, and the dive was obviously a dive - but that's two incidents compared to how many in the clip I shared? Two things can be true at once, that the Swiss tackle/dive there were bad (and the dive was punished), but that Argentina appear to be getting away with A LOT. (But again, I didn't see the game live.)

Even with the dive, supposedly the card shouldn't have been given due to FIFA's own VAR rules (though the rules seem pretty dumb):

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Maybe, but loser is loser, If Swiss were strong they could beat Argentina, they lost on every stats, shots, on target etc.
 
Chris Davies said:
That's a foul, and the dive was obviously a dive - but that's two incidents compared to how many in the clip I shared? Two things can be true at once, that the Swiss tackle/dive there were bad (and the dive was punished), but that Argentina appear to be getting away with A LOT. (But again, I didn't see the game live.)

Even with the dive, supposedly the card shouldn't have been given due to FIFA's own VAR rules (though the rules seem pretty dumb):

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Lots of sour grapes from the English media, guess global warming is Argentinas fault as well.
England Lost, Fair and square, watching every detail of a game afterwards can make any team look like a foul/cheat machine.
Dont forget the ball that may or may not hit the wire vs Norway, wonder what the discourse would have been if it was Argentina...
 
Sami 1999 said:
They win world cup via hand ball. What else can you expect from a team like this?
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What a poor comment, buddy.

Copa America champions, away game against Brazil in the final at the Maracana; Copa America champions against Colombia in extra time; a resounding victory in the Finalissima against Italy; World champions after France tied the game (with two penalties); and now in ANOTHER FINAL to defend the title.

Tell it however you want, it's a legendary team.

Winning after already winning; he’s got more balls than the others could ever dream of.
 
This is a team that had previously lost two Copa América finals to Chile — and deservedly so. Then came the World Cup final against Germany in Brazil, with countless controversial calls.

But they didn’t complain. They kept quiet, got back on their feet, and carried on.

Whatever has to happen on Sunday, will happen. It’s a beautiful clash of styles and generations: Spain have a very young team, full of hunger and ambition. We, on the other hand, are watching the final chapter of a beautiful story — the last episode before this generation gives way to the next.
 
rockstrongo said:
Lots of sour grapes from the English media, guess global warming is Argentinas fault as well.
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Genuine question - is there? All I've seen personally is the press questioning Tuchel and his decision to lie down and let Argentina run riot after scoring a goal.

In-fact, on the BBC, Julien Laurens went on a wonderful tirade against Tuchel that I cannot help but agree with in its entirety - particularly in how Tuchel blames everyone but himself (in today's press conference, Tuchel said "for me there is no one to blame."):



The only "sour" thing I've seen is the predictable moment when Argentina players held up a Falklands banner. I think it's fair to say if any team held up a Ukraine banner there would be immediate consequences... but Trump says it's "free speech", so it's fine. (Wonder what would happen if a team held up a banner saying "Trump and Epstein were close associates".)
 
Chris Davies said:
Genuine question - is there? All I've seen personally is the press questioning Tuchel and his decision to lie down and let Argentina run riot after scoring a goal.

In-fact, on the BBC, Julien Laurens went on a wonderful tirade against Tuchel that I cannot help but agree with in its entirety - particularly in how Tuchel blames everyone but himself (in today's press conference, Tuchel said "for me there is no one to blame."):



The only "sour" thing I've seen is the predictable moment when Argentina players held up a Falklands banner. I think it's fair to say if any team held up a Ukraine banner there would be immediate consequences... but Trump says it's "free speech", so it's fine. (Wonder what would happen if a team held up a banner saying "Trump and Epstein were close associates".)
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All the anti Argentina stuff from British media houses (read tabloids) is alive and kicking on social media.
Also a lot pages/people having a field day posting all kinds of anti Argentina stuff on my x/fb/ig.

Guess more balanced/less biased media from England doesnt, but the other ones are sure as hell going all in.
Tbf most of those pages/media(tabloid )
is also the same posting roundabout stuff as a good thing as well
And its been a "FIFA is handing Argentina the cup" discourse since day one.
 
rockstrongo said:
All the anti Argentina stuff from British media houses (read tabloids) is alive and kicking on social media.
Also a lot pages/people having a field day posting all kinds of anti Argentina stuff on my x/fb/ig.

Guess more balanced/less biased media from England doesnt, but the other ones are sure as hell going all in.
Tbf most of those pages/media(tabloid )
is also the same posting roundabout stuff as a good thing as well
And its been a "FIFA is handing Argentina the cup" discourse since day one.
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I think the "sour grapes" is purely because of their political statement (which is political sour grapes in itself), not the actual football. I'd be amazed if any print journalist is crazy enough to say Argentina didn't deserve to win the game. Surely they all have eyes (and access to statistics)!
 
Chris Davies said:
I think the "sour grapes" is purely because of their political statement (which is political sour grapes in itself), not the actual football. I'd be amazed if any print journalist is crazy enough to say Argentina didn't deserve to win the game. Surely they all have eyes (and access to statistics)!
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I agree, its from the usual suspects most of it comes.
To bad a great deal of the population world wide only has that as their source of news.
Which is an issue all over the world, scream the highest and rage bait people.
Glad you posted on how real media pictures it in England though, didn't have that perspective
 
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