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Seabass admitted that PES2008 sucks...however...

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hellenes

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4 September 2005
Was this about the techincal coding of the game? Like bad GK/lag/slowdowns/lack of out of the pitch features (ML, internationall challenge, kit selection etc)? Or the speed of the game the arcade style is a gameplay design decision that will never change? I mean does KONAMI believe that realism=bad and that arcade style sells game? I tremble in the idea that this might be the case... :shock:
 
hellenes said:
Was this about the techincal coding of the game? Like bad GK/lag/slowdowns/lack of out of the pitch features (ML, internationall challenge, kit selection etc)? Or the speed of the game the arcade style is a gameplay design decision that will never change? I mean does KONAMI believe that realism=bad and that arcade style sells game? I tremble in the idea that this might be the case... :shock:
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GK is a big problem but for the online side with the lag, you dont really get much lag. If you play someone from the UK, you should be alright. But for the online side all the teams should be the same, with no average to no one to be make a fair.
 
hargreaves4 said:
Probably that the game hasnt moved on since the PS2 days... as JB explained the control system is still stuck in the PS1 days!!! only 8 directions? not making full us of the Analog stick?
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8 directions is enough... It´s all about D-pad, much more precision, and it also depends on the angle of your player. You can pass and shoot in many directions.
 
The propblem is guys that if the arcade ultra speed design is a decision and not a mistake for KONAMI then where are these series going?
 
Emanuel said:
8 directions is enough... It´s all about D-pad, much more precision, and it also depends on the angle of your player. You can pass and shoot in many directions.
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Are you fucking dumb?
8 directions enough?ffs this isn't ISS,this should be realistic football,and is there only 8 directions in football?
They should put it to have many directions like Fifa has.
 
the problem is the feel of the game, play 2008 and then go play WE PES2007 or PES6 on PC......2008 is just a fukn disgrace on so many levels.

PES6 on the 360 is better than 2008 and even that game sucked compared to WE PES2007 and PES6 on PC.

lost for words on how fucked up this game is.
 
kristian826 said:
Are you fucking dumb?
8 directions enough?ffs this isn't ISS,this should be realistic football,and is there only 8 directions in football?
They should put it to have many directions like Fifa has.
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You can have unlimited directions. Get a ball, go outside and play with your friends. Is that realistic enough? 8 directions is enough in a videogame. You have 8 directions but when your player is at different angles you have more directions availabe.I still prefer ISS 1 and his 8 directions rather then FIFA 2008 with 16 or 32 or 10000000 directions.
 
Offline the game is better now imo with the new slower play not perfect and not in the same league as pes6 or 5 or 4 or even 3 for that matter.
But forget online for now lets not even go there.Lets be honest though we all know we can get the game for free for offline so they'd better get the online right it's an insult to it's customers.
 
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Bill said:
Offline the game is great now imo with the new slower play not perfect but overall better than pes6.
But forget online for now lets not even go there.Lets be honest though we all know we can get the game for free for offline so they'd better get the online right it's an insult to it's customers.
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i don't understand how anyone who likes the WE/PES series can justify liking this game.

the ball physics are just wrong on so many levels, you don't feel like you are passing a football @ all and the ball skids all the time instead of bouncing how it should - it's such a fuckup.

shooting .....i don't have all day to write how bad it is.

long passes are ridiculous, they look like they're shot out of a cannon and it doesn't matter who you pass with everybody is the same. i don't get a better feel passing with beckham than i do with some chump i've never heard of.

player running animation - we all know what a joke this is.

i don't have enough time to really point out all the fuckups with this game, but for the first time ever this version is just a major step backwards for the series.
 
Emanuel said:
You can have unlimited directions. Get a ball, go outside and play with your friends. Is that realistic enough? 8 directions is enough in a videogame. You have 8 directions but when your player is at different angles you have more directions availabe.I still prefer ISS 1 and his 8 directions rather then FIFA 2008 with 16 or 32 or 10000000 directions.
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I agree 100% with him even thou he is madrid scum lol:lol:
 
Tbh he needs to be fired for this years pes.
1 month after release it's £9-99 brand new says it all and i am amazed he is still in a job
must have cost konami one hell of alot of sales and profits.
 
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This have a good point.
If they work on PES 2009 , let's suppose...
TODAY...
When the PES 2009 got release they have already tested, without lag and etc.

[Kind of a dream]
 
Emanuel, mata-te. Acho impressionante como defendes este jogo sem pés nem cabeça sabendo que te estas a basear em factos que são bons (nao sei bem o ke..) e apontas o jogo como se fosse um grande jogo, e ainda tens a lata de dizer que o PES6 era um jogo "buggy"?? lool
Vê-se mesmo que es Tuga de portugal, a merda que os estranjas nao curtem, ká é lindo. Enfim...
 
TeddyKGB said:
the problem is the feel of the game, play 2008 and then go play WE PES2007 or PES6 on PC......2008 is just a fukn disgrace on so many levels.

PES6 on the 360 is better than 2008 and even that game sucked compared to WE PES2007 and PES6 on PC.

lost for words on how fucked up this game is.
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I TOTALLY agree with you
 
Why can't it just be called PES 8.
And why the fuck is there a shitty neon scrolly menu. I'd much rather see all the options.
What's with scrapping the match details. I liked seeing the reports on the players etc.
So much has been lost. Konami are a joke with PES.
 
I've played this series since the start,on all formats this is by far the worst.I even got WE11 and that sucks too.Fifa has murdered WE/PES this season.Seabass has thrown in the towel.
 
I had already uninstalled the game from my pc, and past week i (stupidly) thought the game wasn't That Bad, but it was really beyond That Bad... So i uninstalled it again and its safe in the box. Biggest waste of money ever... I even bought it because of online, if i knew it was this terrible i would have downloaded it from somewhere. :/
 
Seabass also said that they got the new licenses but not at the expense of something else.. yeah right :P less modes, less stadiums, no german teams except for Bayern.. and the worst of all: gameplay. a reasonable man would prefer evo to fifa in the past despite the Knoda, Doltra etc names because it used to be the most realistic football game around.. this isn't the case anymore. I also tried fifa but it's just a copy paste of the previous version with more teams.. so I unistalled it right away :P I hope that I'll see the gameplay I knew so far in pes5+pes6 in the next game of the series..
 
It may just be me but I can't see how the latest PES is ever so different or worse than previous Pro Evo games, barring goalkeepers, shooting and passing......okay I see your point now lol.

So they obviously need to sort out the afformentioned broken stuff in any future sequel, aswell as adding stuff they previously took out even the little things such as player kit changing before a master league match aswell as player match performance bio at full time....also should the master league be overhauled they should have the league formatted how they used to do it, with Rugby Super League rules whereby if you were the league leader at the end of the season you wouldn't be crowned champions unless you won a mini tournament at the end of the season with the top 4 - similar setup with relegation also.....not the most realistic but in terms of playability it made things interesting and more fun....also they should bring back the ability to poach a player on a bosman at any time although he cannot become a player for you until the transfer period....this is realistic and I have no clue why they took this option out. It adds to the strategy of being a manager in Master League, if you keep ur eyes open and manage to land Fabregas, Ronaldo and Torres all for nothing but player wages all in one season, quality stuff. Yet Konami in their wisdom decide to take options away from the player ??

I think so long as Konami fix the broken stuff and re-impliment these things or at the very least give us the option like we currently have in the starting ML 11 initially....then PES 9 could well be something more like PES we know and love and more importantly more like PES we know they are capable of. Something we frankly havn't seen yet since the advancement into Next Gen for the series. Unfortunately....Konami now need to stop trying to refine at this point and just stick to what they know and rebuild that way. Otherwise it's a downward spiral and FIFA will be taking over sooner rather than later.
 
We need proper leagues like you can play the premiership and you play champions league matches uefa cup league cup fa cup and so on integrated into the leagues forget master league completely you can just have a custom leagues option.
But above make it very mod friendly let us have enough chant slots for every team and so on.
 
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