FIFA (2K)

For all their issues nba2k games might have with microtransactions at least their gameplay is a pretty sim experience. All these years Football games dont even come close to that.
 
Not really excited if it's really 2k. Given their trackrecord, it will be infested with microtransactions and the pc port will be based on old gen consoles.
 
Sami 1999 said:
Not really excited if it's really 2k. Given their trackrecord, it will be infested with microtransactions and the pc port will be based on old gen consoles.
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Why would the PC version be based on old gen consoles??
It is a brand new game and engine and if released by 2K it will be next gen only including PC.

Of all the 2K games it is only NBA which isn't next gen on PC.
 
bsmaff said:
The world has changed - People don't want sim games anymore.
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This is the sad truth - well, I don't know how true it is, but it's what devs believe.

I still vehemently believe that, in the same way racing games have every possible flavour from full-sim to full-arcade with everything in-between (even coining the term "sim-cade")...

...if that happened with football games, and we suddenly got a sim (or something close), I think there'd be a huge uptake. Think of how Football Manager is still going strong, think of all the analysis you find out there (even on the likes of Tiktok, where your core audience is very young, there are popular tacticians breaking down games)... Think of all the nerdy, stat-based podcasts that exist.

The audience is more intelligent than ever and yet EA feed them the most dumbed-down twitch-based action gameplay ever, and Konami just carry on moving their creaking old gameplay experience closer and closer to it. But they're the only "real" choices.

I really think there's a huge opportunity, for the first dev who comes along and does anything other than try to clone FUT (with dollar-signs in their eyes).

That's unless EA do it first when a business brain sees the value in splitting EAFC into two games, FC Real™ and FC Ultimate Team™, adding an extra revenue stream - think of how many football fans would have to buy both (one to play something that resembles actual football, and one to continue the FUT grind).

But that dream died long ago for me.

There's an opportunity for 2K to be a genuine alternative (if the rumours are true) - but there was for "UFL" too, and "Goals", and look what they're doing. So I'll have zero hope until the day I play something new and don't (without exaggeration) turn it off within five minutes because of how little effort it takes to do the most difficult things in football, with any player, with any team.
 
Money makes the world go round for the companies making these games. Unfortunately, football is not popular enough with nerds for the "indie scene" to make their own game. Yes, someone like myself could do it but then the standards set by the user base for these kinds of games are so high, it would be almost impossible to get in. If one single animation is "clunky" then your game is dead to these guys.

EA are right now living off the proceeds of The Sims and FC (Ultimate team really). They are never going to upset that money stream, as long as people buy it, the game will always remain the same and suit that group.

Konami. I have no idea what they thought were doing with their latest iterations. I guess try and find a way to tap in to EA's money stream?

Honestly, I dont know much about 2K games. I dont play Basketball but last time I did, I found it an extremely limited experience. The game, like vanilla FIFA/FC, had limited and very sweaty ways to "win". That was about 2/3 years ago, it may have changed? So based on that experience, I dont hold much hope. Cynical, I know.
 
Paul-v said:
Money makes the world go round for the companies making these games. Unfortunately, football is not popular enough with nerds for the "indie scene" to make their own game. Yes, someone like myself could do it but then the standards set by the user base for these kinds of games are so high, it would be almost impossible to get in. If one single animation is "clunky" then your game is dead to these guys.

EA are right now living off the proceeds of The Sims and FC (Ultimate team really). They are never going to upset that money stream, as long as people buy it, the game will always remain the same and suit that group.

Konami. I have no idea what they thought were doing with their latest iterations. I guess try and find a way to tap in to EA's money stream?

Honestly, I dont know much about 2K games. I dont play Basketball but last time I did, I found it an extremely limited experience. The game, like vanilla FIFA/FC, had limited and very sweaty ways to "win". That was about 2/3 years ago, it may have changed? So based on that experience, I dont hold much hope. Cynical, I know.
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We can criticise NBA2k for many things but calling the offline portion of the game a limited experience is weird. MyLeague is a really deep mode, gameplay is still a blast offline if you want to play the sim way.
 
fear said:
We can criticise NBA2k for many things but calling the offline portion of the game a limited experience is weird. MyLeague is a really deep mode, gameplay is still a blast offline if you want to play the sim way.
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Fair enough. As I said. My knowledge is limited so coming to the game without knowing anything it felt, simple? Maybe I missed something :)
 
bsmaff said:
Why would the PC version be based on old gen consoles??
It is a brand new game and engine and if released by 2K it will be next gen only including PC.

Of all the 2K games it is only NBA which isn't next gen on PC.
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If it's released on old gen consoles, the pc port has high chance of getting an old gen port.

If it's next gen only, then in next few years when ps6 comes out. The pc port will be based on old gen port again for first few years.

So I'm not excited, not a single bit if it's 2k that's gonna make fifa game.
 
I'm excited for the gameplay specifically and if anyone could stand toe to toe or beating EA, it's 2K like they did with the NBA franchise. But of course the gambling part could be worse than EA's
 
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