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I did play West Ham v Southampton last night which ended 5-5. If this result happens more than 30-50% of matches, that becomes a problem. Reading got beat 6-4 and 7-4 in 2007. So such results do happen in real-life, they're just rare. I saw about 20+ games in the EPL (since '92) that had more than 9 goals a game (maybe 24 matches in 33 years of an EPL playing around 38 matches for a team per season)
 
Lol "free"

Nah, I like when i actually own the game, buy for 5 bucks for once then forget. Bought fc24 for $4 last year and im sure i dont need to "pay" again just to access it, lol.

Never like any subscription model on apps or games. Always thought it's weird to me people try to normalize this

Hey man 1K is 1K, if they ever did what you said, ill do it right now. No question asked 😂

Anyway im sure in late june they will be huge discount coming, cant wait.
 
Hayes said:
Lol "free"

Nah, I like when i actually own the game, buy for 5 bucks for once then forget. Bought fc24 for $4 last year and im sure i dont need to "pay" again just to access it, lol.

Never like any subscription model on apps or games. Always thought it's weird to me people try to normalize this

Hey man 1K is 1K, if they ever did what you said, ill do it right now. No question asked 😂

Anyway im sure in late june they will be huge discount coming, cant wait.
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I'm not normalising the subscription services. It all depends on the individual end user and annual £££ calculations. Personally I have saved a lot of money already this year with Gamepass Ultimate. I would have spent a lot more by buying some first day releases and some other titles. I know I don't own actually a bunch of these games because of the nature of the service.
 
Gamepass is nice for big players. Ok you don't own the games but you can played and finished a lot of games. It's really nice like Expedition 33 or Indiana Jones.
EA FC 25 will have a lower price when EA FC 26 will be official.
 
FC Bayern said:
I did play West Ham v Southampton last night which ended 5-5. If this result happens more than 30-50% of matches, that becomes a problem. Reading got beat 6-4 and 7-4 in 2007. So such results do happen in real-life, they're just rare. I saw about 20+ games in the EPL (since '92) that had more than 9 goals a game (maybe 24 matches in 33 years of an EPL playing around 38 matches for a team per season)
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Since the beginning, you can have realistic scores with the right mods or sliders.
The big problem of the game is it engine, too many sliding mouvs and the fact that the night, the gamespeed increases a lot.

EAFC 26 needs to focus on
-CPU variety
- more inertia and less sliding animations
-a better management mode
- more interaction : informations on the pitch to comment your career stats, your progression, etc...
 
saturator said:
Since the beginning, you can have realistic scores with the right mods or sliders.
The big problem of the game is it engine, too many sliding mouvs and the fact that the night, the gamespeed increases a lot.

EAFC 26 needs to focus on
-CPU variety
- more inertia and less sliding animations
-a better management mode
- more interaction : informations on the pitch to comment your career stats, your progression, etc...
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It's true. I usually have only 2-3 goals at most in a match, on occasion maybe 4. This match caught me off-guard tbh. Maybe the GK's were suffering from flu
 
Remember when FIFA 20 first came out and we though THAT was bad because of the new 1v1 defending….how I would kill to have that back with the current state of affairs lol
 
Jeffafc said:
Remember when FIFA 20 first came out and we though THAT was bad because of the new 1v1 defending….how I would kill to have that back with the current state of affairs lol
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Its crazy to think how far both games have sunk, they have literally got worse every year, I used to think, " in 5-10 years time these games will be unreal" im still playing PES2017 S as it is as close to a game of football I can get, disappointing.
 
steff said:
Its crazy to think how far both games have sunk, they have literally got worse every year, I used to think, " in 5-10 years time these games will be unreal" im still playing PES2017 S as it is as close to a game of football I can get, disappointing.
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Same here. I used to think that on these years we would be moving videos-like graphics. At current pace, we will need 20 years more.
 
vegasheat said:
Is this game better than modded FIFA 16
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It's entirely personal preference. Some people think FC25 is good with sliders, I think it's an abomination. With mods on PC it's a definite improvement but in my opinion, 16 is the GOAT and the FC engine (which is optimised to be skatey slidey 10-goals-per-team "fun") would need to be totally reworked for it to even come close.

But that's my opinion and others will disagree. Nobody can give you your answer.
 
Chris Davies said:
It's entirely personal preference. Some people think FC25 is good with sliders, I think it's an abomination. With mods on PC it's a definite improvement but in my opinion, 16 is the GOAT and the FC engine (which is optimised to be skatey slidey 10-goals-per-team "fun") would need to be totally reworked for it to even come close.

But that's my opinion and others will disagree. Nobody can give you your answer.
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I am new to FIFA 16. Always was a PES/WE guy. These modern footie games don't interest me that much but once I tried FIFA 16 then patched it with Infinity V8 patch, Anth James Ball 1.7 mod with His Cam.Package....this game is something else. Between FIFA 16, Kick Off 2 and sometimes SWOS2020 I get my football gaming fix
 
Thebig issue on the last FIFA/EAFC is the overall gamespeed. Too high. This speed made than the animations are too quick. When you can slowdown the gameplay, with mods or sliders, the game feels different.

You didn't have tennis scores, you can take your time to make passes, crosses, etc...

When the servers are down, the gameplay is even better.

I haven't big expectations for EAFc 26. If sliders work like EAFC 25, it will be a good start.

If they manage to reduce or kill skating animations, it will be a good footy game.

I know than vanilla it will be an arcade game with crazy scores.
But please EA , give us the basics of football, made a real simulation mode for offline gamers with inertia, faults from CPU, no more skating and a real AI for the CPU, like FIFA 14 or FIFA 16.
 
saturator said:
Thebig issue on the last FIFA/EAFC is the overall gamespeed
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I enitrely disagree. A game with faked physics, no free ball, 1v1 AI and "simple" interactions (i.e. every ball-winning tackle must result in the ball being glued to your foot and ignoring physics in order for the player to "feel good")... That's bad at any speed.

As you say yourself:

saturator said:
[It's missing] inertia, faults from CPU, no more skating and a real AI for the CPU, like FIFA 14 or FIFA 16.
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All of that is bigger than the speed - some have even argued that all "sim mode" really does is slow down the gameplay, hence why it doesn't actually fix anything (and why custom sliders are the more popular option amongst fanbases like this one).
 
Chris Davies said:
I enitrely disagree. A game with faked physics, no free ball, 1v1 AI and "simple" interactions (i.e. every ball-winning tackle must result in the ball being glued to your foot and ignoring physics in order for the player to "feel good")... That's bad at any speed.

As you say yourself:



All of that is bigger than the speed - some have even argued that all "sim mode" really does is slow down the gameplay, hence why it doesn't actually fix anything (and why custom sliders are the more popular option amongst fanbases like this one).
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FIFA/EA FC will never have PES ball physic, I want to be clear on that. But you can add some freedom to the ball.
This is my last match of EAFC 25 on FUMA, Fulham Vs united



I think the rythme is good, not perfect, but playable to have some realistic actions.
The ball has some freedom, it didn't glued to the foot.

I have some slidding, yes, it's right but it's engine issues.

I can play a slow game with sometimes some sliding but I can't play a minute a speedy footy game. Never.
PES 2021 on My club mode has sometimes a crazy speed.

But yes you're right. Before, sliders were only for custom feelings. Now, it's for having a playable game. It's really bad!
 
The highest problem with FIFA has always been marks. AI Players either press too fast and game is way too convulsive or there won't be press at all, but is strange to see a positional pressing, which is what you see most in real life. Defenders of CPU players DON'T REALLY DEFEND, and I don't mean doing tackles, I mean contain and not letting the enemy player pass with the ball, or following a mark backwards.

THAT is the real problem of FIFA. The game is made so that it goes really fast. Pass are also sometimes too precise, defenders have a lot of problem to track backwards when the ball has passed their height in the pitch and attacking players always win the position in the counters... And it mostly happens in every game. It is strange the game where you see a proper positional defence after having defended properly a counter.

Obviously they don't want to do a sim game or games would need 90 minutes to have a more or less realistic result.
 
I've been developing my own mod in the last few months, as nor sliders, simulation mode or the work of there modders where anywhere near to satisfy me. Surprisingly, I discovered how useful Chatgpt is to provide insight about the stuff inside gameplay files (what parameters do, What's the impact of tweaking values in certain way, etc). The use if Ai has allowed me to do thousands of tweaks in a precise way, as it reduces the amount of testing you need to guess what a value does and how much you have to change it to get what you want a part that you can get suggestions based on your goals.

The point is, a part of being able to get a gameplay that I cannot stop playing and that I like to share with the community, It reveals that there's a true gem in the core of this game, despite the gameplay is heavily scripted towards an extremely casual approach.

This means that we cannot expect nothing new from EA in the next years, but we're lucky that people have developed wonderful tools that allow us to tweak the game up to down, and we can use AI to go much deeper than we have been gone before.

If you want to try the mod you can find it here:
amartingil

Thread 'I used ChatGPT to develop a Gameplay Mod and what I achieved is amazing! - Give it a try'

I've never been much into AI until this year, when I started using it for learning purposes. After being impressed by what ChatGPT is capable of, I decided to see if it could help me dive into EAFC modding and better understand how the parameters and values inside the gameplay files work.

I should say that I already had modding experience, so I wasn't starting from scratch, but AI has allowed me to go thousands of times deeper. I won’t go into much detail for now, just watch the videos and give it a try.





The modifications I’ve made so far reflect my...
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Here you can have a look, despite video capture doesn't make justice how good it feels to play it:

 
Here we go for the first speech on EAFC26 by the producer himself!


FGZ ⚽️🎮 on X : "NEW 🚨 Samuel Rivera who is the EA Senior Producer has gave us some insights on FC 26: "The only thing I can say is that we've never worked so closely with the community. We're giving a huge priority to exactly what the community has told us they want us to improve in the game." https://t.co/YMY3aAGQsO" / X https://share.google/lXx4IUBEs6PvHuCbE
 
saturator said:
FIFA/EA FC will never have PES ball physic, I want to be clear on that. But you can add some freedom to the ball.
This is my last match of EAFC 25 on FUMA, Fulham Vs united



I think the rythme is good, not perfect, but playable to have some realistic actions.
The ball has some freedom, it didn't glued to the foot.

I have some slidding, yes, it's right but it's engine issues.

I can play a slow game with sometimes some sliding but I can't play a minute a speedy footy game. Never.
PES 2021 on My club mode has sometimes a crazy speed.

But yes you're right. Before, sliders were only for custom feelings. Now, it's for having a playable game. It's really bad!
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Yikes I just skipped randomly to 6:40.and saw 2 midfielders just stop dead as the the attacking players went forward, it's horrible
 
saturator said:
Here we go for the first speech on EAFC26 by the producer himself!


FGZ ⚽️🎮 on X : "NEW 🚨 Samuel Rivera who is the EA Senior Producer has gave us some insights on FC 26: "The only thing I can say is that we've never worked so closely with the community. We're giving a huge priority to exactly what the community has told us they want us to improve in the game." https://t.co/YMY3aAGQsO" / X https://share.google/lXx4IUBEs6PvHuCbE
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AAAAANDDDD first news are bad news

Because "community" is online-gambling-addicted-FUT-idiots
 
saturator said:
Here we go for the first speech on EAFC26 by the producer himself!


FGZ ⚽️🎮 on X : "NEW 🚨 Samuel Rivera who is the EA Senior Producer has gave us some insights on FC 26: "The only thing I can say is that we've never worked so closely with the community. We're giving a huge priority to exactly what the community has told us they want us to improve in the game." https://t.co/YMY3aAGQsO" / X https://share.google/lXx4IUBEs6PvHuCbE
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Not gonna buy it, is gonna be crap.
 
Hayes said:
Lol "free"

Nah, I like when i actually own the game, buy for 5 bucks for once then forget. Bought fc24 for $4 last year and im sure i dont need to "pay" again just to access it, lol.

Never like any subscription model on apps or games. Always thought it's weird to me people try to normalize this

Hey man 1K is 1K, if they ever did what you said, ill do it right now. No question asked 😂

Anyway im sure in late june they will be huge discount coming, cant wait.
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Just bought the game for peanuts again, now i remember why it's so cheap cause the game is on sale during steam summer sale, lol.
 
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